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Part 1

  • Meniscus damage
  • Stem Cells and muscle growth
  • Knee surgery
  • Skin infection after surgery
  • Sciatica

Part 2

  • Hip labral tear
  • Shoulder pain
  • Neck Pain

Narrator:  Are you living in pain?  Is it joint pain or muscle pain?  If so, stay tuned.  Welcome to Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow, from the Darrow Stem Cell Institute in West Los Angeles.

This is the program that can give you effective solutions for the pain you’ve been living with.  Dr. Darrow is a medical doctor, board certified in physical medicine and rehabilitation.  He teaches about the use of Prolotherapy, PRP and stem cells.  Today’s program could open up a new life without pain for you.  Now here’s Dr. Darrow with his co-host, Dr. Nita Vallens.

Nita: Well, hi there Dr. Darrow.  How are you today?

Dr. Darrow:  I’m excellent Nita, how about yourself?

Nita: I’m great.  I love that phrase in our opening, a new life for you without pain.  And that’s what we want for you today, so you’ll be able to call us, before I get to all the information, let me first thank Warren Eckstein for giving us a great plug at the end of his two-hour program, called the Pet Show.  He takes care of animals.  We take care of people with musculoskeletal issues.  Dr. Darrow does, that is.

And we will be taking your calls all hour at 1-866-870-5752, lines are open for you right now, and when you phone us today, you get a free book on Prolotherapy, a free booklet on age management medicine, and a free booklet on the latest treatments of platelet-rich plasma and stem cell.

And the bonus round, here it is, Dr. Darrow has written a brand new book, and you can get an eCopy off of his website.  The website is www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com, and the book is basically called Regenerate, Don’t Operate and you can get an eCopy, or you can get a hard copy with everything else when you get your other items.

And we want you also to know that we’re here Saturdays at one p.m., Sundays from one to two p.m. on 870 AM, and our number for you to call us right now again is 1-866-870-5752.

Dr. Darrow:  Well done.

Nita: Why thank you.  So, shall we go to an email, or do you have something you want to say as we begin?

Dr. Darrow:  Well, I mean the obvious is we are here to regenerate your tissue instead of cut it out the old way.  The old way is on its way out.  There is still a lot nay sayers, the older doctors that grew up operating and taking tissue out, but the studies now show that that is not a good way to heal.  And a matter of fact, it’s a good way to make yourself worse over the long distance, and my new book is I think about 250 studies all about that, yeah that’s research because the orthopedic surgeons always said to me, well where is the research, because intuitively I always knew it was better to grow back tissue and regenerate it, and rejuvenate it rather than to cut it out.

And my training in medical school was to be a surgeon.  I loved it.  It’s so much fun being in an operating room.  But until I had a surgery on my shoulder during medical school by my boss, who I adored, which came out terrible, it wasn’t his fault, it’s just the way it happens.  And I then learned about regenerative medicine, I injected my own shoulder one time laying in bed with my wife, watching TV, I pulled out a syringe, and she started swearing at me, and I did it anyway.  And I woke up the next morning, and I was pain free, full range of motion.  I had great luck with that shoulder for about 12 years until I re-injured it.  I then re-injected it a couple of times, and it’s been fine.  Re-injured it again a few years later, I’ve been doing this a long time, as you can tell.

Nita:  Yes.  Like 20 years, plus tax, I think.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, plus a lot of tax with the new tax bill, right?  But yes, it’s worked on my body over, and over, and over, different injuries, my wrist was the first part that healed.  I’ve had my neck and back done by other people, I can’t see back there, but I’ve done my elbows, I’ve done my left knee, I had someone do my broken ribs in the back, and what else?  I know I’ve done other areas on my body with regenerative medicine, all with amazing success, it’s never failed me.

And I think I do the most in the world, I’m not sure.  That’s what they tell me.  We do the most stem cells, and the most PRP.  Part of that is our cost is less, I’m sure that’s what attracts a lot of people, but I think I have the most experience of anybody.  And I could be wrong, maybe there’s someone out there that does, but when I go to the big meetings, they all say how could you possibly do so many?

Well, because we love doing our work.  We love the healing aspects of what this is, and I’m excited every day, and my staff is excited.  We just had a great party last night of excitement, sharing all the joy of working with our patients.

Anyway, I’m going to take this one which is about a meniscus meaning something in the knee.

Nita:   All right.

Meniscus damage in the knee

Dr. Darrow:  Hi, doctor, I’m from Macedonia, oh.  And I have damaged meniscus on my knee.  My doctor here told me one therapy with beef gelatin and capsules which had glucosamine, chondroitin, vitamin hyaluronic acid could help.  He told me to use it everyday in the morning for three months.

Now, I’m starting the third month, but I don’t think this is helping me.  Is there anything you can do to assist in the healing?  Well, of course. Things orally don’t generally work all that well.  Sometimes people with oral intake of glucosamine and chondroitin do get assistance with their musculoskeletal pain.  Maybe half the people feel better.  So, it’s something I always do recommend.

But to actually fix the area, I think that regenerative medicine is the way and depending on how much damage there is to this Macedonian’s knee would depend on whether I would want to use platelets from his blood, or if I would want to use stem cells from his bone marrow.  The stem cells come out with the bone marrow, and with that also comes out PRP, platelet-rich plasma.  So, you get two treatments at once when you take bone marrow.

This is a big controversy about using fat, I’ve done it many times in the beginning of my career with this, and I don’t find that it works as well number one, it’s more traumatic for the patient getting the fat out.  And worse than anything is the injections with fat have to go through a very thick needle.  We’re not allowed in this country to use collagenase which breaks the fat down.

So injecting fat is a very deleterious process.  When I inject a shoulder for example, I typically am going to inject probably about 30 times or more.  And you can’t do that with an 18-gauge needle, you’ll just beat it up.  But you can do it with a 25-gauge needle which the bone marrow can be put through.

So yes, Mr. Macedonia, I won’t give out your real name, there is good hope for you.  I hope you can get over here, and that we can treat you.  Often when people come in from other countries, we’re going to treat them a couple times in a week, and for average people who live close, close meaning the average patient we have is about two hours away considering LA traffic, we’ll treat them once every two weeks, all right.  And that’s with platelets or with stem cells.

The platelets a great alternative too, but they don’t work quite as effectively, we do research on every one of our patients and we have Brent Shaw who just graduated a few months ago from Santa Barbara and he’s on his way to medical school, he’s doing research with me for a couple of years.  And you can come in if you want and talk to him about what our research shows, it’s pretty amazing stuff.

Nita  Sounds great.  So if you are somebody that related to the email Dr. Darrow just responded to, and you have knee problems, or perhaps you have back problems, or hip problems, wherever your pain is, give us a call at 1-866-870-5752, lines are open for you right now, that’s 1-866-870-5752 and remember to check out the website at www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com, lots of research and information on that site, and videos of Dr. Darrow doing the treatments and bonus, you can email Dr. Darrow off of every page on that site.

Stem Cells and muscle growth

Dr. Darrow:  So, here’s another one.  Let’s see what this gentleman said.  I was curious if any version of stem cell therapy has been used to help grow muscle, interesting, huh?

Nita: Very.

Dr. Darrow: He said he was born prematurely, and the muscle around the hip joint didn’t develop fully, so it’s tight and his gait has been impacted.  Gait is the way we walk.  When we see someone limping they have a gait problem.  I was curious if any type of stem cell therapy could be used to help grow enough muscle to loosen it, and correct the gait.

So, this person, like everybody else who comes in the office has an idea of what is causing their problem.  And fortunately for most of them their idea is wrong.  And I’m saying this person’s idea is right or wrong.  I hope you are listening, I’m not going to give out your name.  It is worth coming in and we do loosen muscle up with stem cells.  We can grow muscle with it.  It’s not going to grow an entire muscle back the way we do it, but it can grow muscle, it can grow bone.

Stem cells are savvy critters.  They know how to go to the place where the problem is, and they can morph into that type of tissue.  The first stem cell study that I read about was from Harvard, a long, long time ago, and it was on I think rats who had retinal, you know eye problems.

Nita: Um-hmm.

Dr. Darrow: And they – what they did was inject the stem cells IV and they had them marked with an isotope so they could watch them go through the body.  And they ended up going from the place where they were injected IV, right to the retina.  They knew how to do that.  So, these are cells that we’re still learning much about, but for orthopedics which is the other thing I do, don’t send me an email, because I get them every day.  It’s not going to help you to send me an email and say is it going to cure cancer?  Is it going to cure diabetes?

Well, there are people working on that research but I don’t do that.  I do orthopedics, musculoskeletal pain.  And our research shows and our – you know just anecdotal evidence too, which is watching people heal, shows that people get a lot better fairly quickly, sometimes right away, using regenerative medicine.  Okay, and that’s either PRP or stem cells or both together.

So, we have some callers here, shall we get started?

Knee surgery

Nita: We do.  Let’s go right to Joan in Santa Anna.

Dr. Darrow:  Hey Joan, Dr. Marc Darrow, I understand you just had knee surgery.  Which knee was it on?

Joan: Actually, he just did a scope with a PRP afterwards, and that was three and a half weeks ago, and I’ve little pin things going around like little poking pins, and I’ve called twice to my doctor’s office, I’m not getting an answer, and you came on just in time for me to ask you, why does it feel like needles are going off at night in my knee?

Dr. Darrow: Well, I have a couple of questions first before I answer that.

Joan: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: You said there are pins in your knee now, or it just feels like it?

Joan: No, he just did a scope, and then he did the PRP afterwards.

Dr. Darrow:  Oh, a scope, okay.  You know when you say – yeah, I got you.  When you say he did a scope, do you know if any tissue was taken out at all?

Joan: No, he just cleaned it up, he didn’t sew anything, he just cleaned…

Dr. Darrow: Well, clean up – Joan, clean up by a surgeon means the tissue is scraped out.

Joan: Yes.

Dr. Darrow:  So, my guess…

Joan: He said he went in with that like a little vacuum or what do you call that little vacuum thing that sucks it out.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, yes, so tissue from what you’re telling me, I wasn’t there to watch the surgery…

Joan: Well, I wasn’t either, so I didn’t really know exactly…

Dr. Darrow: Yeah, exactly, you were in heaven on drugs.

Joan: Thank goodness.

Dr. Darrow: Most likely tissue was taken out, I don’t like when that happens, and why would someone in my mind, it makes no sense, why would someone take tissue out and then do PRP, why not just do the PRP.  The PRP works.

Joan: Well, I had three months of it burning on the one side of the meniscus, I guess there’s two and they’re C-shaped menisci, excuse me, Latin.

Dr. Darrow: Yes.

Joan:  And it burned and burned, and burned, and he tried the hyaluronic acid, he tried the other thing you stick in your knee just temporary, cortisone or something, and it didn’t work.  So, he said well let’s go in and scrape it out and then do the PRP afterwards.

Dr. Darrow: Okay.  Well, look what’s done is done, and you’re just fresh out of surgery, three and a half weeks.

Joan:  Yes.

Dr. Darrow: So, let’s just pray for you that, that thing heals up.

Joan: Okay.  I just wondered why I feel like needles going around in my knee.

Dr. Darrow: Well, hopefully it’s because it’s healing.

Joan: Oh, oh that’s a sign of healing, not because he didn’t something wrong.

Dr. Darrow: No, I don’t think anything, you know I’m not going to say right or wrong in medicine, I don’t know what that means.

Joan: That’s true.

Dr. Darrow: I can just tell you that my point of view, and I’ve been doing this work 20 years is people don’t need to have tissue taken out.

Joan: Oh, I don’t know exactly what he went and did.  He said it was like a snowball, it was growing over the three months that I was in pain.  He said did you ever see a snowball get bigger, and bigger and bigger, well that’s why it was so inflamed on the one side of your knee because this thing was growing.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, well let’s just hope that he did an amazing job on you and you heal right up.

Joan: Okay.  Let’s do that.

Dr. Darrow: If you – if you do want to stimulate more tissue growth, I would go ahead and go back to him or to another doctor, and get some more PRP or stem cells now.

Joan: Oh, okay.  Okay, thank you doctor, I appreciate it.

Dr. Darrow: Because after a surgery, thank you you’re welcome, after a surgery, not that I want anyone to have a surgery, but if they do, I still have them come in and do regenerative medicine.  Why not stimulate healing rather than tissue being taken out?  I don’t think that’s a good idea.  It’s a set-up for another surgery.  And then it’s a set-up for a knee replacement.

Joan: Regenerate, does that mean PRP?

Dr. Darrow: Yes, PRP regenerates tissue.  It stimulates tissue to grow, and after a surgery I usually like people instead of PRP to get stem cells from bone marrow, and PRP together.

Joan: Oh, the bone marrow and the PRP.  Because my husband had cancer and he did the PRP.

Dr. Darrow: Well, bone marrow has PRP in it.

Joan:  Oh, they both do, they have the platelets in there.

Dr. Darrow: Yes.

Joan: Platelets and plasma and all that stuff…

Dr. Darrow: All right, Joan God bless you and good luck.

Joan: Thank you.

Nita:  Thank you Joan for your call.  Our number is 1-866-870-5752, that’s 1-866-870-5752, and we’re going to Kiafa in Los Angeles.  Is it Kiafa or Kaifa.

Kaifa:  Yes, Kaifa, that’s correct.

Nita: Okay, hi Kaifa.

Skin infection after surgery

Dr. Darrow: Kaifa, Dr. Marc Darrow I understand that you had something about repairing your skin after surgery.  And I just want to say this again, I said it to Joan, who was the caller right before you.  Don’t go to surgery and have PRP with surgery, that makes no sense.

Kaifa: I had no surgery yet.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, hang on, hang on, I’m still…

Kaifa: I had an infection…

Dr. Darrow: Kaifa, I’m still talking, okay, I’ll let you talk, but I’m in the middle of saying something.

Kaifa: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: If someone wants to heal, and they’re going to use PRP with a surgery, don’t do the surgery, just do the PRP, or do the stem cells.  Don’t take tissue out, and then put something in to grow it back, just grow it back and see if you heal, it works most of the time.  Most of the people that come in to see me heal, not everybody does.  Not anything is going to heal everybody and some people quit before their treatment is done, so they don’t get a healing.

But in many cases people are getting surgery now, and the surgeon is putting in stem cells or stem cells with PRP that makes no sense at all to me.  Just do the stem cells and the PRP, it’s simple.  It’s just an injection, it’s not cutting tissue out, and then having to recuperate.  Anyway, so you did not have surgery Kaifa, but you have something about your skin?  What’s going on?

Kaifa: I had an infected biopsy on the left side of my chest, and it just like looked horrible and there are bubbles that are like big burns of skin, brown and a lot of discharge, a lot of body discharge, like fluid, body fluid, and I was diagnosed with breast cancer, stage four and they did the treatment, but the wound is not healing on the outside.  My primary care physician gave me antibiotics for two weeks, the strong course, and it helped it greatly changed my infection on the outside…

Dr. Darrow: Kaifa, I’m going to stop you at this point.  We don’t deal with cancer, and I don’t deal with skin, I’m going to give you a little hint, that you may ask your oncologist if hyperbaric oxygen is appropriate for you, because oxygen heals skin.  It heals everything, and then we’re going to move on, from there, Nita.

Nita: Thank you so much for your call Kaifa, we appreciate that.

Dr. Darrow: And God bless you Kaifa, I hope you heal up well.

Nita: Absolutely.  So, let’s – we’re going to go right to Danny in Calabasas who has oh, I guess I’m having a little trouble with my board here, so give me a minute.

Dr. Darrow: I got it.  It got it, Nita.

Nita: You got it?  Okay.

Sciatica

Dr. Darrow: Yes, Danny, Dr. Marc Darrow, I understand you have low back pain, and your right leg has sciatica is that right?

Danny: Correct.  Thank you first and foremost for everything that you do, I’ve been listening to you for a little while now, and I’ve had this problem for quite a few years, and I just didn’t know exactly what route to take.  I’ve never had back surgery.  You know so basically my lower back you know whenever I do either stress or I’m doing some kind of work where I’m bent over for long periods of time, I’m in pain for at least one or two days.  And at times it seems when I am stressed out, the lower back just almost get a back spasm, it feels like a very sharp pain, and it’s…

Dr. Darrow: Well, here’s the good news.  Danny, here’s the good news, you ready?

Danny Yes.

Dr. Darrow: I don’t know if you have your radio on something, but we’re getting a little bit of an echo from you.  The good news is it sounds like, and I would have to touch the area to find out, that you have a sprain of the ligaments in your low back, the ilio lumbar ligaments and the fascia, probably that is called the dorso fascia that comes all the way down to the pelvis has what – and Nita know it’s called an enthesopathy.

Nita:  My favorite word.

Dr. Darrow: The enthesis is where the muscle or the ligaments or the tendons connect to the bone.  So, when you’re bending over, and you’re working a lot, that get stretched out a little bit like a sprained ankle, I always tell people like you, because they’re nervous because the doctor finds herniated disks, or disk degeneration that are not causing a problem, but he finds them on the MRI and says you need a surgery.

And then as soon as I touch the back, I go I’ve got good news, you’re got a sprained ankle in your back, I say that facetiously.  It’s obviously not an ankle, but when people have a sprained ankle, they don’t go run to get surgery.  You know it’s very rare you need surgery for a sprained ankle.

So, what I’m telling you is just based on this conversation we’re having, you probably just have a sprained ligament or attachment of the quadratus lumborum muscle on the pelvis, and that’s something that generally we can heal using PRP or stem cells, okay.

Danny:  Great, and now would that actually affect what – again, I’m kind of being – I explaining it as sciatica but I do have you know that right – right side upper gluteus area where it really does hurt and the pain goes down my leg, and the same kind of situation when I’m working, bent over for long periods of time.

Dr. Darrow: Sure.  I’d have to examine you to see.  We might be able to get rid of the low back pain, and the glut pain, you know the butt pain, and not be able to get rid of the leg pain.  All things are potentially possible, right.  But from what you’re telling me the low back and glut are things that we could probably heal up pretty quickly.

Danny: Fantastic, great to hear.

Dr. Darrow: All right, Danny, God bless you.

Nita:  Thank you for your call, Danny, and the office number for people that are listening and you’re ready to call and make your appointment is 800-300-9300, that’s 800-300-9300.  You can go to the website, www.lastemcells.com and if you would like to talk to Dr. Darrow right now, please do call 1-866-870-5752, that’s 1-866-870-5752 and we’re going to Newport Beach to talk to Concetta, is that correct?

Dr. Darrow: Hey Concetta, Dr. Marc Darrow, I just want to put something out before you and I speak.

Concetta:  Okay.

Dr. Darrow: For people that have insurance, we do take many insurances, we take Medicare, Cigna, Aetna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, United Healthcare, and for people without insurance, we take something called Credit Care – or Care Credit, I’m sorry.  And that’s like a credit card for medical procedures.  And unfortunately, most of these insurances do not cover regenerative medicine, but they usually will cover at least your initial office visit, to see if this is something that would work for you.  And some of the procedures I do are covered, and can set up – please stay with us, we’re going to a break.

Nita: Yes, stay with us on hold, we’ll come right back to you.  You’re listening to Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow.  I’m your host, Nita Vallens, and we are here Saturdays at one p.m. and Sundays from one to two p.m. on 870 AM.  So, I am asking you to grab a pen or a pencil right now, write down this important information coming your way, and we’ll be right back after these messages.





Narrator: Whether you have pain in your back or joints, surgery may not be the answer.  Instead of the dangers involved in cutting out tissue, consider healing and rejuvenating the area with stem cells, platelet-rich plasma or Prolotherapy, the treatments that are available to professional athletes are now available for you.  Watch the videos at jointrehab.com or call the Darrow Wellness Institute at 800-300-9300, 800-300-9300, that’s 800-300-9300.

Nita: Welcome back to Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow.  I’m your host Nita Vallens and we’re taking your calls at 1-866-870-5752, and right now we’re talking to Concetta in Newport Beach.

Hip labral tear

Dr. Darrow: Hey Concetta, Dr. Marc Darrow, I just want to talk for a second so that all of the new listeners, because I know people are driving around and what not, switching channels, hopefully to ours.  What we’re doing in the office is re-growing tissue, I’ve been doing this for 20 years.  I’m one of the grandfathers of it you might say, and I think I do the most in the world.  What it is comprised of today, what it’s morphed into is using PRP which is platelet-rich plasma, which is a simple process of drawing blood, spinning it, and then injecting it into any part of the body where there is pain from the musculoskeletal system, that’s joint arthritis, it could be neck pain, back pain, shoulder pain, anywhere from the top of the head really to the bottom of the feet, all kinds of sports syndromes, meniscal tears, rotator cuff tears, plantar fasciitis, post-surgically even, yes.  People get surgery, and then they don’t do well, and then they come in.  I wish they hadn’t had the surgery, because there’s more work to do on them, but we still can help them usually, unless it’s a joint replacement, I can’t regrow metal and plastic, but we’re getting great luck with stem cells now, which we get from bone marrow, and when we do bone marrow, we’re getting stem cells and PRP or platelet-rich plasma at the same time.  So, it’s like two treatments at once.

So, I understand Concetta that you’re having left hip pain, is that correct?

Concetta:  Labrum – labrum tear in the hip.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, yes.

Concetta:  I had an accident, I’ve been in pain since November 16th of a year ago, 2016, I was hit by a wave in the water, and it twisted my body to the left, and then I went to the beach and put a ball down and kicked it to the right, and I heard a crack in my joint.

And my leg just wobbles all the way down to the ground where I had lost use of my leg, I didn’t know what was happening.  Finally, I got…

Dr. Darrow: Let’s talk about today, Concetta, are you able to walk?

Concetta: Okay, I’ve been in pain.

Dr. Darrow: Are you able to walk?

Concetta: And it comes from my sciatic and then it goes into my leg.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, are you able to walk?

Concetta: And I’ve tried the therapist, I’ve tried the chiropractor, I’ve tried everything and the pain, I can’t even walk sometimes.

Dr. Darrow: Okay.  Are you overweight?

Concetta: No.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, good, that’s the first step.

Concetta:  I eat good, and I’m low in my weight.

Dr. Darrow: Excellent, beautiful, I wish everybody was, it would make life easier.  Yes, I mean unfortunately…

Concetta: No, I exercise, but with this pain I can’t go to the gym, I can’t do anything.

Dr. Darrow: Sure, I hear you.  So, what we’re going to do is – Concetta, I want you to listen, and we’re going to talk about the issues that you have going on.  One is that labral tear in the hip doesn’t necessarily cause any pain.  There are many people that have labral tears in the hip or the shoulder, or wherever, and that doesn’t necessarily cause pain.  We know that because we do studies, and we find people that have no pain, we do an MRI, and then we will see that they have a labral tear.  So, I wouldn’t be concerned about that, and I wouldn’t jump to having surgery, because you have a labral tear.

If you have an MRI I would love to look at it, or an x-ray, I would look at it also if you decide to come into the office, I would look at it with my ultrasound, I can look inside the body with that.  And if you do want to come in, or you want to talk the number to the office is 800-300-9300, I’ll repeat it, 800-300-9300.

So, I do have to examine you, move you around.  The examination is the most important part, but we get rid of pain in hips all the time, we inject hips almost every single day, sometimes more than one.  And they seem to get better even with labral tears, so I’m not worried about what you’ve said that you have.  I want you to know that.

So, you know God bless you, I hope you’re going to do better, and I hope you can come in, and if you can’t come in, I hope you can look at the website, which is www.lastemcells.com, lastemcells.com, that’s the website.  And you can email me on every page on that website if you’re interested in talking to me personally, I get back to everybody’s emails, okay.

Nita: And thank you for your call, we appreciate it, and our number is 1-866-870-5752, and remember to check out the website at www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com.  And we’re going to go to Sandy in Tuston.

Dr. Darrow: Hey Sandy, Dr. Marc Darrow how are you today?

Sandy: Hi Dr. Darrow, I’m doing well, thank you.  And thank you for taking my call.

Shoulder pain

Dr. Darrow: Excellent, well thank you for calling in, you make us happy.

Sandy: Oh good.

Dr. Darrow: It’s shoulder time for you, which shoulder is it left or right?

Sandy: My left shoulder.  I’m left-handed too, so that makes it a little worse.

Dr. Darrow: Oh, you’re left-handed okay, yes, it does.  And is your shoulder – are you able to lift your arm up in the air?

Sandy:  I can.  There’s a certain angle that when I reach out, if there’s weight, or if I’m going to pull something I get extreme pain.

Dr. Darrow: Is that out to the side?  Is that out to the side?

Sandy:  It’s slightly out to the side, it’s put your arm out shoulder length, and you go approximately 15 degrees further to the left, so you open up your shoulder a bit, and it’s that spot.

Dr. Darrow: That is most likely the supra spinatus tendon that hurts you.  It’s the most common tendonitis and tendon tear in the rotator cuff of the shoulder.  So those things generally heal up very well, and I’m not nervous about that for you.  It’s not something we ever suggest surgery for, even with complete tears, we seem to get people better using PRP, which is platelet-rich plasma, which is a process of drawing blood from your arm, spinning it, and injecting it, or if I think it’s severe enough we would use bone marrow, and we take the stem cells and the platelets and inject those together, okay.

Sandy: Would an MRI tell you the severity?

Dr. Darrow: You know in a sense yes, in another sense no, that’s not how I determine.  I determine by the examination.

Sandy: Oh, I see.

Dr. Darrow: We can’t – I like to have an MRI, I really do because it’s additional information.

Sandy: I am scheduled to get one here the first week of January.

Dr. Darrow: I would do that.

Sandy:  Okay.

Dr. Darrow: I would do that, and then what I would do with that is when you go in there tell them my name, and put my name on it, so it comes to me in addition to your primary doctor.

Sandy: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: That makes it simpler to get it to me.

Sandy:  Great.

Dr. Darrow: So, here’s the stick on MRIs and then I’ll let you talk.

Sandy: All right.

Dr. Darrow: There is a book you are going to get for calling in today, it is called Stem Cell and Platelet Therapy, okay, and it’s all about modern medicine today, it’s about how MRIs do not tell you where pain is coming from.  So, people that operate based on an MRI in my opinion are making a big, big mistake.  It’s additional information, but the examination is what counts.

And the reason for this is there are so many experiments and you’ll read about them in my book, Stem Cell and Platelet Therapy that show that people without pain have supra spinatus tears, have labral tears, have meniscal tears in the knee.  We cannot age…

Sandy:  Wow, without pain.

Dr. Darrow: Yes. They have no pain, and then we do an experiment on them when we do an MRI, and we find these terrible things showing they’re not terrible.  So, it’s normal, in other words to have these anatomical deficiencies in the body.  I refuse to get MRIs on me, do you want to know why?

Sandy: Why?

Dr. Darrow: Because I don’t want to see it.  I am a high-level athlete.

Sandy:  I like that answer.

Dr. Darrow: I’m a high-level athlete, I was a gymnast.  I do sports really hard.  I know I’ve got to have some of these tears.  I don’t know want to know about them.  Why?  What’s going to make me think about?

Sandy: Right.

Dr. Darrow: I don’t want to think about things like that.

Sandy: Yes.

Dr. Darrow: I want to think about – I want to think about healing, joy, happiness.

Sandy: Yes.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, that’s the way I focus my life, I’m not a master at it, but I work at it.  But I work at it all day, every day.  I meditate an hour a day.  Why do I do that?  To move into joy, love, happiness.  And then I carry that with me for my patients.

Sandy: That’s incredible.

Dr. Darrow: So, you can do the same with your body, and there are people that heal just from joy and happiness.  There’s a doctor in New York named Bernie Segal, he’s a cancer surgeon.  He does not do surgery anymore.  Why?  He’s taught people how to be happy.  Their cancer goes away.  Not everybody, but a lot of people, ready about him, look him up, Google him.

Sandy: I just – yes, I just wrote him down, that’s – yeah, I will.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, there’s a lot of healing that goes on in ways we do not understand.  There’s prayer therapy that heals.  We know about that.  It’s been studied experimentally in research.  People long distance, across the country who pray for people during a surgery get better than people who don’t have the prayers.  How does that work?  I don’t know.  I don’t have to know everything.  Life is a mystery to me.

Sandy: Yes.  Yes.

Dr. Darrow: You know I’ve been against the tide of orthopedic medicine now for 20 years.  I used to be the devil in LA, and across the country.  Why was I the devil?  I was doing things that worked, and I was saying surgery is not the way.  Guess what?  Now, doctors from all over the world come to study with me, to learn how not to do surgery, and to heal by using regenerative medicine.  They pay me a lot of money to learn how to do this.

Sandy: Wow, this is good.

Dr. Darrow: So, what happened?

Sandy:  Sorry?

Dr. Darrow: People are waking up – what happened?  People – doctors are starting to wake up, but it’s a long haul.  I’ve been teaching this at UCLA for 20 years, and there are still doctors there that want to do surgery, when it’s not needed.

We had a caller today who had her knee scraped out, and then the doctor put PRP in it.  And my response to that is why scrape the knee when you’re going to do PRP, just do the PRP.  Just heal it, don’t scrape it, don’t stick a knife in there.  Don’t risk infections.  Don’t risk all kinds of things.  As soon as a knee is scoped and tissue is taken out, that’s immediate arthritis, the bones get closer together.  I don’t get it.  I don’t get it.  I don’t understand it, and I’m sorry, I love the surgeons, it’s not about them.  They’re amazing people.  They work hard.

But you know in my opinion they shouldn’t be doing these surgeries, there’s study after study after study in their own literature, that says don’t do these surgeries.  Placebo works better.  Regenerative medicine works better.  The surgeries don’t work.

Sandy: Wow, I have one more question for you.

Dr. Darrow: I’m not talking about – I’m not talking about a joint that’s smashed or broken, yes, we need the surgeons for that immediately.  That’s an emergency.

Sandy: Yes.

Dr. Darrow: But if it’s an elective procedure, that means the patient gets to decide, please think twice about it.

Sandy: Yes.  I’ve come from…

Dr. Darrow: Anyway, you have a question.

Sandy  I’ve had too many surgeries personally, because like you, I used to be quite the athlete, and I have a lot of injuries to show for it.  And now, I’m feeling it.

Dr. Darrow: Well, that’s part of being an athlete.  Do you have anything more to add to this, Sandy, any questions?

Sandy: I listened to your radio show last weekend, and you talked about stem cell treatment…

Dr. Darrow: I’ve lost Sandy here, guys.

Nita:  You’re asking about neck treatment?

Sandy: Yes, last weekend he talked about treating, doing stem cell treatment on a neck.

Dr. Darrow: We get super success with necks.  Necks are very simple for the most part.  If you can press on the back of the neck and you have pain, that means it’s not degenerative disk disease, it’s not a herniated disk, it’s none of those things that’s causing the pain?  It’s the ligaments that are sprained, just like a sprained ankle, like I talked about before the – before earlier in the show.

Sandy:  yes.

Dr. Darrow: So, we just take platelets and we inject them along the ligaments and most people heal up very, very quickly.  It’s not a big deal.  I can tell usually in one second, just by touching the neck, whether I can help a person.  I can’t help everybody with neck pain.  I’m not saying what I do is a panacea.  What I am saying is too many people are getting surgery, when they don’t deserve to have that done to them.

Sandy:   Very good.

Dr. Darrow: The MRI shows something terrible, the surgeon goes in and fixes the MRI.  I’m not here to fix MRIs.  I’m here to help people heal.  It’s a different paradigm.  I get way too many people that have had surgery that are sitting in my office crying, pleading why did they do that to me?  I’m worse now.

Sandy:  Wow.  Thank you so much.

Dr. Darrow: And you know the other thing is I don’t promise any patient anything, I tell every patient, and I make them write it down, they have to write this down, there are no guarantees with this work.  But too many doctors tell the patient this is going to fix you, and then they get worse.  There is something wrong about that.

Sandy: I agree.

Dr. Darrow: I’m not a salesman.  If anything I push people out of the office, I tell them to get another opinion.  I tell them to go see a surgeon, get their informed consent.

Sandy: Wow, very informative.  Thank you doctor.

Dr. Darrow: You know you need to know all the options, and then you get to decide, all right, God bless you Sandy.

Nita:  Thank you so much Sandy for your call, we appreciate it.  Our number is 1-866-870-5752 and we’re going to Irene in Huntington Beach.

Pain in neck

Dr. Darrow: Irene, Dr. Marc Darrow, and you’re in line with what we were just talking about.  You have pain in the back of your neck, and the base of your skull.

Irene: Yes, this is the second time I’ve heard your program.

Dr. Darrow: Oh, thank you.

Irene: Your voice is so serene, just sitting here listening to you, I feel better.

Dr. Darrow: Well, I hope so, I mean that’s what life’s all about is feeling good.

Irene: I have RA and I had eye surgery, corrective lens a year and a half ago, and my left eye has been hurting me ever since.  And then I noticed it dragging a little bit, and lately, I’ve had extreme pain at the nap of my neck, and down either side of my neck, and intermittent headaches, especially over the temples, like there was a clamp on it.

Dr. Darrow:  Yes.

Irene: So, I’m submitting that to you, I don’t know if that’s in your bailiwick.

Dr. Darrow: Some of it might be, yes.  I mean obviously I’m not an eye person, I don’t do that, but I do know and I use personally the very best in the city of LA whose name is Howard Krauss, he is a genius…

Irene:   I’m having very great difficulty understanding you, maybe it’s this…

Dr. Darrow:  Yes, I am too, I’m getting weird feedback.

Irene: Okay, how could I solve that.

Nita: Do you want to take your answer off the air?

Dr. Darrow: Yes, why don’t we do that.

Nita: Yes, put your radio back one, and Dr. Darrow is going to answer you off the air, Irene, and thank you so much for your call.  So, go ahead.

Dr. Darrow: So, I was just talking about my favorite eye surgeon, whose name is Howard Krauss, he is in my building in West LA, and you can look up his phone number.  I’ve seen him – I’ve actually been in surgery with him, doing the most amazing, amazing work.  My best friend lose his eye many, many years ago, he fell down the stairs and ruptured the cornea, and a surgeon – an eye surgeon came in and said we need to pull that eye out immediately.  We refused, and we called up Howard, he came in and he looked at it for one second, and said I can fix that.  Well, unfortunately my friend didn’t regain his vision, but he was able to keep his eye, which is a very important thing.  So, I love you Howard Krauss.

So, I’m not going to handle the eye issue Irene, but the neck stuff and the headaches we may be able to help you with.  I’d need to touch the area, and see if that’s something that I can help you with.  If it is, we would most likely just draw your blood, spin it, take the platelets out, and inject your neck right then.  Very quick procedure.  Okay.

Should we go onto to George?

Nita:  Let’s go onto to George in West Hills.

Dr. Darrow:  Hey George, Dr. Marc Darrow, how are you today?

Nita: George, are you with us?  Okay, George is not there, all right, then let’s go right to Mike in Santa Monica.

Dr. Darrow:  Before we go to Mike, which we will do, let’s give out our phone number again, Nita?

Nita:   Sure, 1-866-870-5752.  Call us at 1-866-870-5752.

Dr. Darrow: And also if you want to call my office and see if your insurance covers your first visit, call 800-300-9300, 800-300-9300, you can call anytime, we have people scoping the phones all the time.  And we do take insurance as I said, but it doesn’t always pay for everything and generally doesn’t pay for regenerative medicine.

Spinal Pain

So, Mike, you’re up, you have spinal – spinal pain?

Mike It isn’t pain, six years, I’m 78 years old, six years ago I had an abscess in my spinal column, T7 – 6 or 7, I lost the use of my legs, through physical therapy, I’m able to walk again.  But the legs are perpetually stiff.

Dr. Darrow: Okay.  And I’m not sure what that means, because there’s a lot of reasons your legs could be stiff.  How long was it that you were not able to use your legs?

Mike: I always had a feeling in my legs, though – that diminishes as you go down the leg.  I was in a wheelchair for about a year, but constantly doing physical therapy, and eventually was able to walk with a cane.  And now I can walk without a cane.

Dr. Darrow: Excellent.

Mike And my understanding I damaged the spinal – the abscess which they took out, damaged the spinal cord, and therefore the brain is not communicating to the muscle or something, is that repairable?

Dr. Darrow: Okay, I don’t know the answer to that. There are people doing research on using stem cells on the spinal cord.  I don’t do that work, and we’re off the air, so go to lastemcells.com it’s a website, email me through that, and I’ll talk to you some more, Mike.

Nita: Okay, we are completely out of time.  I’m so sorry we don’t have time for any more calls, but go to the website, www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com and thank you Alex, thank you Suzette, thank you Dr. Darrow for a great program, and thank you for listening and responding.  We’ll see you next time.

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