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In this first half-hour:
Dr. Darrow discusses an email: pain from buttocks to the foot
A caller: sharp pain in arm and finger
Dr. Darrow discusses ideal protein, vampire facelift
Dr. Darrow discusses an email: will PRP be helpful if I send you my MRI?
A caller: shoulder pain from injury, got cortisone injections
In this half-hour:
A caller: knees, overweight
A caller: pain and numbness in hands. Arthritis
A caller: low back pain for years
A caller: knee and shoulder pain, candidate for replacement surgery. Arthritis
Living Pain Free 11/18/17
Narrator: Are you living in pain? Is it joint pain or muscle pain? If so, stay tuned. Welcome to Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow, from the Darrow Stem Cell Institute in West Los Angeles.
This is the program that can give you effective solutions for the pain you’ve been living with. Dr. Darrow is a medical doctor, board certified in physical medicine and rehabilitation. He teaches about the use of Prolotherapy, PRP and stem cells. Today’s program could open up a new life without pain for you. Now here’s Dr. Darrow with his co-host, Dr. Nita Vallens.
Nita: Well, hi there Dr. Darrow. Welcome.
Dr. Darrow: Hello, Nita Vallens, how are you today?
Nita: Great, and yourself?
Dr. Darrow: I am living it up as usual. Excited to do the show and teach people all about regenerative medicine, using platelets from their blood, or platelets and stem cells from their bone marrow, to heal their orthopedic injuries, their arthritis, anything from the top of the head, to the neck, to the shoulders, to their ribs. You know a lot of people CC syndrome, costochondritis and their ribs, and they think there’s a slipped rib or something like that. And those are pretty easy to fix, down to muscle problems, we get a lot of that. Low back pain of course, neck pain, hip arthritis, knee arthritis, all kinds of pain in between there and around there. And obviously the knee that’s our biggest complaining area of the body for most people.
You know down to the toes, yes, we get toe arthritis a lot. We get bunions a lot, plantar fasciitis. So really anything all around the body I inject.
Nita: Perfect. That’s great. Well, we want to first before I give you a lot of information, so grab a pen or a pencil, please. Thank Warren Eckstein, the two-hour program that precedes us, it’s called the Pet Show. And Warren takes care of animals, and we take care of people in musculoskeletal pain. I say “we”, but you take care of them. I just facilitate, so to speak.
And we want to get your calls all hour long at 1-866-870-5752, lines are open for you right now, so you can call Dr. Darrow and directly speak about your pain. And when you call today you get a free book on Prolotherapy, a free booklet on age management medicine, a free booklet on the latest treatments of platelet-rich plasma and stem cells, the doctor was just referring to. And you get the latest book called, Regenerate, Don’t Operate, you can go to the website at www.lastemcells.com that’s lastemcells.com, and you can request an e-Copy be emailed to you. Or you can…
Dr. Darrow: Well, you can request a hard copy too.
Nita: Or a hard copy, absolutely, either one.
Dr. Darrow: Did you get the book yet, Nita?
Nita: No, I did not.
Dr. Darrow: Oh, because we sent off a few to you from the office.
Nita: Okay, well I’ll check the mail again today.
Dr. Darrow: Thank you.
Nita: And again our number – you’re welcome, thank you. Our number for you to call is 1-866-870-5752 we here Saturdays at one p.m. and Sundays from one to two p.m. on 870 AM.
Dr. Darrow: May I answer a question that just came in?
Nita: Oh yes.
Dr. Darrow: Okay. This was actually early this morning. I get emails all day, all night, and I’m expecting a lot of people listening today who don’t call in, who are shy, will email me and the way to do that is through the website which is www.lastemcells.com, lastemcells.com, there’s a place to email me on every page.
And here’s one that just came in this morning at 10:32 a.m., hot off the press. I have pain from buttocks to my foot, can PRP help? Well, that’s always a question, and unfortunately I haven’t yet learned how to be psychic enough to diagnose over the internet, or on the radio, maybe someday, that will be coming, but not yet.
So, there are so many different areas that people talk about, when they say from their buttocks to my foot, I don’t know what that means. I mean, there can be pain in the butt, which can be from the gluteus muscle attachments, from the piri formis attachments, a lot of those pains are around what we call the greater trochanter, which is the lateral, or outside of the femur, which is the thigh bone, up close to where the hip is, but really in a different universe. People often say that’s hip pain, and they may have a little hip arthritis, and get their hip replaced, when they never needed it because that’s something that yes, PRP can heal up.
Now, what about the fact that it seems to go all the way down to the foot. That smells like what we call a radiculopathy, meaning a nerve that’s being pinched in the low back, and that nerve is you know maybe three feet long, going all the way from the spinal cord down to the foot. So that could be an issue also.
There’s a lot of things. It could be a referral pattern from the middle of the low back. In my old book, Prolotherapy, Living Pain Free, which you can get a copy of by calling in also, there are referral patterns that I’ve drawn out for you. So, you can see that an issue with the ligaments can actually refer all the way down the leg, and it’s not something that you need surgery for.
So, there’s many things along the pathways that can be causing pain, and this also can just be local pain, pain in the butt. It could be a pain in the knee. It could be a pain in the foot, and all of that has to be teased out with my hands in terms of doing an examination. I don’t believe MRIs tell us where pain is coming from. I do like to get the MRI, and make sure there’s nothing terrible going on.
But I don’t diagnose them. I don’t diagnose a person’s pain by looking at a diagnostic film. I don’t know if that makes sense, but I know it will by the end of the show, because a lot of people are going to call up, and ask about that. And we’ll figure out what’s going on with that.
So, can we go to our first caller here, Sue?
Nita: Yes, let’s go to Sue in La Habria.
Dr. Darrow: Hello, Sue, Dr. Marc Darrow, how are you? I understand that your arm and your fingers are painful, yes.
Sue: Oh yes. You know I was watching – listening to the radio one time, and a lady also called you with the same thing. And I thought oh my gosh, there’s someone like me too.
Well, I don’t know how it had started, maybe when I was 15 years old and I’m 65 and a half now, but when I was like 15 years old, I used to go to the pharmacy and get those patches and put them on my – on my shoulder, right top shoulder where I have like sharp pain there every now and then.
I used those for a long time, and then I stopped having the pain in my 30s, 40s, now I’m having excruciating pain in my – all my arm. I do have my both hands they throb, the knuckles from pain, they throb a lot. And my right hand especially, I don’t know maybe because I use my right hand a lot. I do a lot of stuff. I like to be handy, that’s why maybe.
A few times in the past I hit my elbow on something, and it’s like electric thing you know it goes, but two months ago, I hit my elbow just by mistake again and that was the worst one. It’s like – it was like from my shoulder to my fingers were like pain, excruciating pain. And I still have this pain, till now, my fingers you know especially at night, I get a lot of pain. I can’t rest my arm, I can’t…
Dr. Darrow: Hey Sue, we got your story pretty good, so let’s have you back off for a second and let me talk, is that okay with you?
Dr. Darrow: Okay. So, you need an examination, because what you’re talking about is somewhat complex. You may have an impingement of a nerve in your neck that is causing this, but also because you hit your elbow, and that caused a lot of the pain, it’s probably due to the ulnar nerve, that’s where that little nerve lives.
And you may want – if you keep banging it, you may want to get an elbow pad from your drug store, and it’s a great big pad that fits around, so when you bang your elbow, you’re not going to feel it anymore, it’s not going to hurt you. So, you may want to do that right away, and see if that’s going to help.
If you need to get to us, our phone number at the office, and you can do an insurance verification from that, to see if your insurance will cover your first visit is 800-300-9300, I’m going to repeat it for everybody, that’s 800…
Sue: 800, okay.
Dr. Darrow: 300-9300. Okay?
Dr. Darrow: So that’s where you start, and then go to the website lastemcells.com and you watch me doing the type of injections I do with platelets from your blood or stem cells and platelets from your bone marrow, and you can get an idea of the type of work that I do. And you can read…
Sue: How does that work on having my fingers – my fingers have been for a long time, for years and years you know, they get very, very hard, and they get swollen, and red, especially my…
Dr. Darrow: Well, hang on Sue, I didn’t finish up. Sue, you need to…
Nita: Sue, Sue, hold on a second, Dr. Darrow didn’t finish explaining to you. So just hang on.
Dr. Darrow: So, the story is this, Sue. You have a lot of things going on. The knuckles may be arthritis of some sort. We need to ferret out what is going on with you. And you can’t do that over the radio, I’m sorry, I wish I could tell you answers to everything. I need to touch the areas with my hands, and see where the pain is elicited from, and then you may need some diagnostic films to see if there is a nerve impingement, you might need what’s called an EMG and nerve conduction study also to see what is going on. To see if there’s impingement either from your neck, or from your elbow, or from nerves in your hand, okay.
So, God bless you Sue, good luck to you. And you know there’s always good hope ahead with these things.
Nita: Absolutely, and our number is 1-866-870-5752, we’re taking your calls, lines are open for you right now, and while the calls are racking up, why don’t we talk about the Ideal Protein you offer in the office and the Vampire Facelift offered by Michelle Darrow.
Dr. Darrow: Oh vampires.
Nita: Yeah, sounds really sinister, but it’s amazing.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, it’s a very – it’s a very catchy name that a doctor I think in Alabama, named Charles Reynolds trademarked. And it’s very simple. We just take platelets from the blood, or I should say Michelle Darrow, my beautiful wife does, and we put those into the face, and what that does is it re-grows the collagen in the face.
So, as we age the collagen wears down, the fat goes away in the face, and we get a little bit gaunt looking, bony looking, and this is really sort of an anti-aging type procedure, it doesn’t trim years off your aging, but it does make you look much younger very, very quickly. It works overnight.
And my wife is a real artist at it. Michelle is amazing at that procedure. So, I’ve seen so many people do that, and I think you know it’s something to consider. Believe it or not we do as many men as we do women with it. You’d think it’s just a female vanity thing, it’s not. A lot of people for their jobs need to look younger, or just for their romantic life needs to look younger.
And then the other area that is associated with our practice is diet. Anytime someone comes in with lower extremity pain, you know anything from the hip, legs, knees, ankles, toes, feet, we put them on a diet if they go for it. I just tell them you know I’m going to talk about this, but if you want me to shut up, just tell me to shut up. Because some people don’t want to hear about it. They’d rather go on their merry way and think that there is some miracle going to happen to them, no.
I do my part of the work, but you guys have got to do your part of the work too. And sometimes that’s dieting to get the weight off the extremities. There is studies that show biomechanically if you have one pound above your waist that you don’t need, that’s about five pounds on the knee. So, if you’re 50 pounds up in weight, what’s 50 times five, 250 pounds extra weight on the knee. That’s is incredible.
Nita: That’s a lot.
Dr. Darrow: You come to see me – you come to see me for knee pain, knee arthritis, you’re going to hear me talk about diet. And again, I’ll offer it, and I’ll say if you tell me to shut up, I will, I promise. But I just need to offer this to you, and tell you that the research shows that extra weight causes arthritis, not just in the knees, but all over the body, because the extra weight is induced by high insulin. Insulin is inflammatory. It’s a very complex thing the way the body works.
So just know if you come to me, you’re going to be a partner with me in your healing. I’m not going to give you a magic wand, and pat you on the back, and send you out. I’m going to want to make you feel better, and make you happier. And part of that is you doing things to change your life.
We all have to – we all could theoretically change your life a little bit and become a lot happier.
Nita: We have to take responsibility.
Dr. Darrow: That’s right, that’s your line of work, right, Nita?
Nita: You’re getting into my line of work, that’s true.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, yes.
Nita: So, let me give the phone number again, call us right now, Dr. Darrow is available, lines are open for you at 1-866-870-5752 that’s 1-866-870-5752. And remember to go to the website which is www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com. I bet you have an email for us?
Dr. Darrow: I – do you know how many I have?
Dr. Darrow: Thousands.
Dr. Darrow: I mean I answer emails all day, all night long. Even sometimes I’ll wake up in the middle of the night, and I’ll get to some emails. It’s a constant source of communication, I really enjoy it. So, everybody feel free to email me through the website at lastemcells.com, www.lastemcells.com.
And you’ll learn a lot. You’ll see videos with the work I do, and there’s a place on every page to email me. But you know honestly, I really hope you’ll call the show now, because I love talking to people, and that number to call in is 866-870-5752, 866-870-5752, and if you want to call and see if your insurance will pay for your first visit, that’s 800-300-9300, 800-300-9300.
We do take Medicare, Cigna, Aetna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield and United Healthcare, but it beats me whether they’re going to do anything for you, because insurance is becoming weird these days. We’re paying more and getting less.
There is also a program that we take which is called Care Credit, which is like a credit card for medical procedures that we can take for you also, if you have no insurance, or if your finances are low or whatever that is all about.
At any rate, this email is very cool, it’s gets right to the point of what we were talking about before. And let me see where it went to, here it is. If I send you a copy of my recent MRI report, will you be able to tell me if PRP or stem cell therapy would be helpful? Nita, what do you think the answer to it, is?
Nita: The answer is Dr. Darrow needs to touch the area, because the MRI does not where the pain is generating from. It might show some abnormalities, or some problems, but it doesn’t necessarily and in most cases does not actually speak to the pain issue.
Dr. Darrow: You got it honey, that’s exactly right.
Nita: Thank you. You trained me for eight years.
Dr. Darrow: Well, hopefully we have another 50 left.
Nita: Of course.
Dr. Darrow: We’ll wheelchair into the radio show. But at any rate – no, hopefully not, we’ll just sprint in.
Nita: Yeah, we’ll hop in.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, the issue with that is this. MRIs are amazing, but they’re overly sensitive and they show things that aren’t there sometimes, but I do like to get them, because they’re additional, ancillary information to my exam.
And one of the most common things I see is ACL ruptures. That’s the anterior cruciate ligament in the knee, and when that is ruptured, we think we need a surgery to put a new one to graft a new one in. We can get it from the middle of the patella, we can get it from the hamstring, we can get it from a cadaver. There’s a lot of places we can get it from.
However, almost all of the ACL rupture people that I see that are ready for surgery didn’t need to get the surgery, because the knee is beat up a little bit, yes, but the ACL, even if it is not there is not the problem. If the knee is nice and tight, and if you pull the tibia, which is the lower bone from the femur, which is the thigh bone, and it’s not subluxing or pulling forward, you do not need a surgery. It’s that simple. And that’s what I see most of the time. I have very high-level athletes without ACLs that are able to compete.
Now, the MRI shows they have a ruptured ACL. So, is the MRI right or wrong? I don’t know, and I don’t care. It’s that simple. So I can…
Nita: Very simple, very easy.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, yes. The main thing is this person said will a copy of my recent MRI report be able to tell me if PRP or stem cell therapy would be helpful? Most likely, it’s going to be helpful. But maybe not related to your – the problem that the MRI shows.
We have to do the exam to find out what’s really going on. Does that make sense to you, Nita?
Nita: Absolutely makes sense to me.
Dr. Darrow: Now, should we go to Joyce? We’ve got some callers coming up, or you got something to say.
Nita: You took the words right out of my mouth; Joyce in Baldwin Park awaits.
Dr. Darrow: Joyce, Dr. Marc Darrow I understand you have a shoulder.
Joyce: Yes, I was – actually I injured my shoulders from work. The thing is the Worker’s Comp is trying to help me, and I was injected with cortisone, and I don’t like that idea to have – well, I don’t want to go through that again under this therapy, but it’s not really helping me.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, so that’s pretty typical.
Joyce: Yes, and they discovered from UCLA my doctor there told me that I have tendonitis, I don’t understand – I just need help. And I do need stem cells, I really do need the stem cells.
Dr. Darrow: Okay. Well, there’s a lot in the news about them. People are getting educated about PRP and stem cells every day in the news. And I’m excited about that, because I’ve been pushing this stuff for the last 20 years, regenerative medicine.
Dr. Darrow: And I used to be the devil in town, all the orthopedic surgeons would say that no one should see me, because it couldn’t happen. And now guess what, there’s a brand new book I have, it took me five years to write, it’s called Stem Cell and Platelet therapy, Regenerate, Don’t Operate and you will get a free copy, because you called into the show today.
It’s got pages and pages and pages, let me take a look at it right now. I’m trying to look at how many studies are in it, okay.
Joyce: Actually, doctor I was diagnosed oh for years, years ago that I have degeneration of tendons.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, well I’m not worried about that at all.
Joyce: I don’t know…
Dr. Darrow: Listen – it’s time for you to listen here Joyce, okay, because I got your story, and I’m going to talk about it now, if you’ll listen, okay, good deal?
Dr. Darrow: Okay. So, this book has 264 studies mentioned in it about how surgery does not work, how cortisone does not work, and it’s actually bad for the joints and the tendons. And how regenerative medicine does work.
So, tendonitis as you have is generally no big deal to heal up using cells from your body. So, we can take your blood and we can spin it, take the platelets out, and inject those, they stimulate tissue to regrow.
Or if it’s a terrible tear you have, we may decide, or you may decide I should say, I don’t decide anything for anybody, you may decide that you want to take stem cells from the bone marrow, which has platelets and stem cells in it for a faster healing.
Now, platelets are great, but there’s no question that platelets and stem cells are even better. So, there is good hope for your shoulder healing, and again, I’m going to give out my office number for you to check and see if your insurance will cover your first visit, so we can examine you, and that is 800-300-9300, 800-300-9300.
And Joyce, I want you to go the website, which is www.lastemcells.com, lastemcells.com and you can watch videos of me injecting a shoulder, and see how easy it is, okay?
Joyce: Okay, doctor.
Dr. Darrow: God bless you honey.
Nita: Thank you so much Joyce, appreciate your call.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, there’s good hope with your shoulder healing up.
Nita: That’s awesome. Our number is 1-866-870-5752, and we’re going to Sunny in Whittier.
Dr. Darrow: Sunny, Dr. Marc Darrow, I understand that your son’s knees bother you and him. How old is your son?
Sunny: Pardon me.
Dr. Darrow: Hang with us because we’re going to break.
Nita: Oh Sunny, hold on we have to take a quick break, we’ll be right back with you. This is Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow. I’m your host, Nita Vallens. We’re taking your calls at 1-866-870-5752, we’re going to send some information your way right now, so grab a pen or a pencil and we’ll be right back in a couple minutes.
Narrator: Whether you have pain in your back or joints, surgery may not be the answer. Instead of the dangers involved in cutting out tissue, consider healing and rejuvenating the area with stem cells, platelet-rich plasma or Prolotherapy, the treatments that are available to professional athletes are now available for you. Watch the videos at jointrehab.com or call the Darrow Wellness Institute at 800-300-9300, 800-300-9300, that’s 800-300-9300.
Nita: Welcome back to Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow. I’m your host Nita Vallens and we’re taking your calls at 1-866-870-5752, and you’ll probably want to visit the website www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com, and right now we are speaking with Sunny in Whittier.
Dr. Darrow: Hey Sunny, it’s Dr. Marc Darrow again, thanks for staying with us after the break, and I want to alert all of the new listeners to what this show is about. It’s about Living Pain Free, it’s about using cells from your own body that we extract either from the blood or from bone marrow, and from the blood we can get your platelets, which are cells that stimulate tissue to regrow. And from the bone marrow, we can get platelets and stem cells, which are the hot topic today in the news, and what they do is they can divide and they morph into the actual tissue.
So, if it’s in a joint, they can actually become cartilage. If it’s in a tendon, they can become tendon tissue, they have a genius thing inside of them that tells them what to do, and they can become new tissue, and no matter where you put them in the body, they seem to know where to go to do healing, so it’s pretty amazing, and the procedures are very simple. You come in the office, and the blood draw is very quick. We spin the blood and then we inject the stem cells, we sometimes will spin, sometimes we don’t need to spin, depending on what we’re doing. And the same thing, it’s in and out, it’s done quickly, and the nice thing about these procedures of regenerative medicine is that you do not have to open the body up, they’re done with a needle that is small, it’s an injection, and you walk out. So it’s very simple.
So, getting back to Sunny, your son’s knees bother him, how old is your son?
Sunny: 47, mucho chubby, and he has MRI with a torn medial meniscus because the tendon is popping and snapping when he walks.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, very good. So, you said it is and I’m going to disagree with that right away, because I’m just that kind of guy…
Sunny: Well, that’s what it shows on the MRI. Pardon me?
Dr. Darrow: Well, that’s exactly what this show is about. So Sunny the deal is this.
Sunny: He’s like mucho chubby, mucho, mucho.
Dr. Darrow: Sunny, I’m going to ask you to listen for a while, and let me talk, because you’ve given me the information I need to get started, is that okay? Okay, I guess so, so torn menisci don’t usually pop and snap. But the patella does, that’s the round bone in front of the knee.
And most likely, and I’m not going to guarantee anything, I haven’t examined that knee yet, but if you want to bring him in, or send him over, he’s 47, he can get there on his own, I’d be happy to examine him. And if the knee is popping, I need to feel where it is popping.
Like I say, it’s generally what we call patellofemoral syndrome, where the back of the patella, which has thick cartilage on it doesn’t fit exactly right into the trochlear groove of the femur, the thigh bone. So as the knee bends back and forth, it will pop in and out and catch.
Now, we have people every day who come in with “torn meniscus”, I should say menisci, that’s pleural, and they heal, not everybody, but most people. So, I’m not worried by about a torn meniscus.
I am worried about your son being what you call “chubby”, because as I talked about in the beginning of the show, every pound above the waist is like five pounds on that knee. So, if he’s chubby enough to be 50 pounds overweight that is 250 pounds on the knee every time he stands up or takes a step.
So, any questions more, Sunny?
Sunny: No, you’ve been very helpful, and very thorough, thank you so much.
Dr. Darrow: Well, God bless you and…
Sunny: From – might I [00:04:51].
Dr. Darrow: Yes, of course, we’re going to – yes, you left your phone number already, so we will call you and get that handled. And this – I am so proud of this book, you know I’ve done several books in the past, this is my favorite one so far, and it’s full of research on why not to do surgery. I’ve always told people, please don’t do surgery, the results I see are terrible. Maybe not right away, a lot of them right away, but a lot of them years down the road.
And now the surgery shows it, I mean I’m sorry, the research shows it. So please get this book. Please call into the show, 866-870-5752, get a copy or as many as you want of this book, I am giving them out for free.
It’s a couple hundred pages long, it’s got over 250 research studies in it. Why do you think I put research studies in it, Nita?
Nita: Because I think that people do not accept a new paradigm, or a new idea easily. It sounds too easy for decades and decades you have pain, you get medicine, you go to the doctor you get medicine, and when it’s so painful you can’t stand it, you get surgery. And that’s kind of been the…
Dr. Darrow: Those days are over.
Nita: Those days are over, so I think it’s hard to get your brain around without looking at research for certain types of people that really need to have proof, before they step into something.
Dr. Darrow: Now, the honest to God truth, is I don’t believe in research. I believe in empiricism, what I see work is what I do. But the research finally backs up what I found empirically for the beginning of my medical career till now.
This stuff worked on me 20 years ago, I’ve been using it in my body ever since. I know Nita we did your neck – all better.
Dr. Darrow: I do, my God, I can’t even tell you the number of treatments I do day, it’s endless it seems. We get about 80, 85 new patients a month. We do over 300, 350 treatments a month. And if anyone wants to look at my Yelp reviews y-e-l-p.com, put Darrow Stem Cells, you’ll see me. That’s not me, that’s not me paying people off to write those. Those are just people’s experience. Not all of its good, be prepared. But there’s a lot of it that’s good, it will give you an idea of what people go through to get to their healing.
Nita: Okay, should we…
Dr. Darrow: And we’ve got a full board here, so let’s move on.
Nita: Yes, let’s go to Joanne in Los Angeles.
Dr. Darrow: Joanne, Dr. Marc Darrow I understand your hands are bothering you.
Joanne: Well, thank you for taking the call. I have had…
Dr. Darrow: Well God bless you for calling.
Joanne Sure, I’ve had numbness and tingling in my hands for probably 10 years or more following a car accident really is what started it. Now, I have had – just to tell you, I do acupuncture, chiropractor, went to a neurosurgeon, physical therapy. The neurosurgeon sent me to a neck specialist who told me if I didn’t have pain now, I would when he was done with me. So essentially – I thought it was honest and I loved it.
Dr. Darrow: Wow, I want to get that neurosurgeons name, he’s the guy I’ll send everybody to.
Joanne: You bet. Meanwhile, the hands have got – I’ve lived with it for a long time, but now arthritis in my hands is making it much worse, I’m dropping things. I’m not writing well. So, I don’t know if there’s anything – I’ve done so many things.
Dr. Darrow: Well, you’ve got a couple – you have a couple issues going on at least. One is you have arthritis which we can usually help heal using platelets or stem cells. And the tingling, that be carpal tunnel, or it might be coming from your neck.
Joanne: Oh by the way, I’ve had carpal tunnel surgery, it did nothing.
Dr. Darrow: Oh, okay.
Joanne: I think mostly people think it’s a compressed nerve in my neck or back there.
Dr. Darrow: Okay. Well, I’m glad to look at you, put my hands on your neck, see what’s going on, see if I can figure out what’s going on with the numbness and tingling, and the pain in the fingers. There is really good hope for you, and I would love if you do a little research, figure out who that neurosurgeon’s name is, and the phone number if you can get it, and email it to me.
Joanne: Oh sure.
Dr. Darrow: You can to right to the website at www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com, and on every page there is a place to email me. I would love to hear from you. He’s the kind of guy you say he’s honest, and he tells you’d have more pain after his surgery, yeah, that’s what I find most of the time. Sometimes people have a miracle success from surgery, but more often than not, it’s not like that.
Joanne: And he really was a very – and he took x-rays and did all whatever and you know he was very thorough. Let me ask you to repeat the website, one more time.
Dr. Darrow: Sure, it’s www.lastemcells.com.
Joanne: Okay, good. I will.
Dr. Darrow: God bless you Joanne, you’re a good woman.
Joanne: And he’s in the Marina Del Ray, so he’s kind of close to where you probably have a lot of patients.
Dr. Darrow: Well, you know what, I get patients from all over the world, so he may have to travel.
Joanne: Wonderful, but you do think that some of the neuropathy part could also be treated?
Dr. Darrow: You know I don’t know a thing yet. I’d have to examine you and find out what’s going on. It’s that simple, unfortunately.
Joanne: Great, I’ll make the appointment, thank you so much.
Dr. Darrow: All right, thank you so much Joanne.
Nita: Thank you Joanne, appreciate your call, our number if 1-866-870-5752, 1-866-870-5752 and we’re going to Brice in Newport Beach.
Dr. Darrow: Brice, Dr. Marc Darrow, I understand your low back bothers you, and you think it’s L4 and L5, is that correct?
Brice: Yes, yeah, how you doing doctor?
Dr. Darrow: I am living it up, man, I’m so glad you called.
Brice: Since I was 13 years old, and you know I competed for a long time, and getting tossed around and beat up, and you know as I got older, you know I went back to training, and all of sudden, I heard – I felt a pop on my back, I was in bed for about two weeks. I tried walking around with a cane, and it just didn’t go well from there. People mentioned surgery, I’m a little skeptical about doing it. I think that it would be a lot better to try something different, and what I’m hearing about the stem cells is over the top.
Dr. Darrow: Excellent, good analysis of what’s going on with you. So, Brice, do you have low back pain?
Brice: Yeah, lower back pain.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, do you have leg pain?
Brice: Initially, my sciatic was going crazy.
Dr. Darrow: No, no, do you have leg pain, I’m talking now.
Brice: Now, a little bit.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, so it’s not your major issue. I’m going to bet that pop you felt was a ligament, okay.
Dr. Darrow: And have you ever sprained your ankle, Brice?
Brice: Yeah, rolled it many times and sprained it, yes.
Dr. Darrow: Yeah, how did that feel?
Brice: Yeah, definitely not good.
Dr. Darrow: No, did you run to a surgeon to fix that? No, of course not, so why run to a surgeon to fix the back?
Dr. Darrow: I mean there are times we need that, if a nerve is impinged, and your leg is dead, yeah, you need that right away, but that’s not what happens to most people. So, most of the people that I see, 99.99 percent of them you know they have a sprain in the back, the ligament is stretched out, just like if it was in your ankle, and this could be in the neck, the same thing, it could be anywhere in the body, and it does not need surgery.
What helps fix those are taking your blood, spinning it, taking the platelets out and injecting the ligaments, that’s the general way we treat those and heal them. Okay, so you can feel good that that is a high probability for you. And I won’t know the answer until I examine you.
Brice: Yes. Yes, I mean I can get in – I just want the pain gone, and I’ve been dealing with it for years. I was only 27, and I had a career, you know wrestling and fighting for so long, and now I feel like I can barely get around, I don’t feel like myself anymore.
Dr. Darrow: Okay. Well, I hear this story every day of the week, and every day of the week we heal somebody using something so simple you know using PRP, or using stem cells, and now having people get their surgery. I cannot tell you over 20 years, how many people came in and said I’m getting surgery. I have the date set up, can you help me before the surgery. And they never had to get the surgery. So, don’t get seduced into surgery.
Brice: Well, let’s do it. Check me out. Help me out here. I won’t do the surgery.
Dr. Darrow: I would love to check you out. I’m going to give you the phone number, so you can see if your insurance covers it, it’s 800-300-9300, we do take Medicare, Cigna, Aetna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, United Healthcare, but they don’t always pay for everything. Usually they’re not going to pay for regenerative medicine, but often they’re at least going to pay for your first visit, and some other things we do, so you can find out what’s going on, and what path you want to take.
Brice: Awesome, all right, let’s do it.
Nita: Thank you, Brice.
Dr. Darrow: You’re awesome.
Brice: Thanks doc, appreciate it, thanks for taking my call, appreciate it.
Dr. Darrow: Yes.
Nita: You’re welcome, thank you. Our number is 1-866-870-5752, and we’re going to Russ in Fountain Valley.
Dr. Darrow: Russ, I understand your knee and your elbow bother you is that true?
Russ: Actually, my knee and my shoulder. I have…
Dr. Darrow: A knee and shoulder.
Russ: Yes, left knee, left shoulder, I’m a candidate for replacement and I just saw an orthopedic surgeon for my shoulder, and I’ve got three-quarters of the cartilage is not there. Rotators are okay. I’m getting a cortisone shot for my rear labrum area, which has really bothered me.
But I’ve been – I’m 71, I’ve been a long-time body builder type, workout for 45 years. I’ve got a pool maintenance business that’s all physical and so…
Dr. Darrow: What kind of business was that, I didn’t hear it?
Russ: Pool maintenance and repair, so I’m on my feet all day.
Dr. Darrow: Oh, okay, so you’re active, yes, yes.
Russ: Very, very active. And I start in the morning, it’s five, go work out then go to work all day. So cumulative wear and tear. My left knee, I’ve been…
Dr. Darrow: Let’s deal with your – let’s deal with that shoulder first, because this could be a lifesaver for you.
Dr. Darrow: Can you lift your left arm up in the air?
Russ: Oh yeah, I go work out – I’m still doing my – what I’ve always done.
Dr. Darrow: Oh, okay. So, this is I’m going to make a funny joke out of this in a way. Yes, you’re a candidate for a shoulder replacement. And so is every single person on the planet whether they have pain or not. Do you understand?
Dr. Darrow: Okay, sure, you’re a candidate. Do you need to get a shoulder replacement? No.
Russ: I’m not going to.
Dr. Darrow: Not if you’re lifting – not if you’re lifting your arm up in the air you don’t.
Russ: No, no.
Dr. Darrow: Not because the cartilage is worn down you don’t need a shoulder replacement. You don’t need any surgery it sounds like. And the cortisone, whatever cartilage is left, it’s going to help kill that, if you do that, so I’d say don’t do that.
Russ: Well, I don’t have much.
Dr. Darrow: I don’t care how much you’ve got. You can move your arm up in the air. You’ve got plenty. You’ve got plenty, okay.
Dr. Darrow: I don’t care what your MRI or x-ray shows. What shows me is what you told me. You’ve got your arm up in the air, that means the bones are sliding on each other. How much do you need? How much of a tire do you need that’s got 100,000 miles on it to drive you know another 100 miles.
Russ: That’s not the issue. It’s the pain in my rear delts.
Dr. Darrow: I know. I get it. I get it. That’s what I’m addressing here.
Dr. Darrow: So, you’re most likely going to be a stem cell person when we take the bone marrow we get stem cells and platelets both at the same time. We would inject that posterior labrum where you think you’re having a problem. I like the way you say where you’re having a problem, you don’t have a clue, neither does your doctor, right.
Dr. Darrow: Nobody does. So, when I do a shoulder, I cover all the bases, I’ll inject that labrum, I’m going to inject the glenohumeral joint where that cartilage is worn down, I’m going to inject all of the rotator cuff tendons, many times. You’re going to end up getting 30 shots or so with a small needle.
Dr. Darrow: In order to regrow that entire cuff, and rebuild your shoulder, okay. So, for me I don’t care where someone thinks their pain is coming from. It means nothing to me. What matters to me is finding the pain generator, and then healing it, all right.
I don’t care what your doctor thinks, God bless him, I’m sure he’s the most amazing doctor in the world, but personally I don’t care what he thinks. Most diagnoses I get that come in the office are wrong. I don’t do diagnoses; did you hear what I just said?
Dr. Darrow: I don’t care about a diagnosis. I don’t do a diagnosis, it means nothing to me. What matters if I can heal the pain. If I heal the pain, and you still have a rotator cuff tear, or you still have a little arthritis, do you care?
Russ: No. No. It’s goes along with the rest I have.
Dr. Darrow: No, but some people do. When I get engineers who come in the office, they go no, I want that fixed. And I go what about your range of motion and your pain? No, I don’t care about that, I just want it fixed. And I tell them well then go get your surgery and see if it’s fixed, because you’ll most likely be back to me later to actually fix it, because the surgeries don’t fix things necessarily.
Russ: Yeah, I don’t, that’s why I’m calling.
Dr. Darrow: They can, I never put – I never put down surgery or surgeons, because I think the surgeons are the smartest guys in medicine with the hardest work there is to do. I used to do it. I was in my training for orthopedic surgery. I loved it. It’s hard work. But I don’t think it’s the answer anymore. We have regenerative medicine now which can regrow tissue, and rejuvenate the area, get back the range of motion and heal the pain.
Now, it’s not going to work on everybody. I had a man come in law week whose hip were so frozen, but he was way overweight too, and I said I can’t help you. And I said maybe if you lose weight, because you need to anyway, because you’ve got diabetes because of the excess weight, why don’t you lost the weight, and then come back in a few months, and let’s reassess. Then maybe I can help you.
Russ: Can I ask you a question about my knee.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, go for it.
Russ: What happens because I’ve got a lot of arthritic tissue that’s built up, I mean I’ve had four bouts of knee injections of Synvisc fluid and my knees – one of them is bone on bone, but it’s not painful, I’m dealing with it. But when you know there’s a lot of tissue there, a lot of arthritic tissue that’s still going to be there even after stem cells correct?
Dr. Darrow: My God, you have the horse behind the cart.
Dr. Darrow: You didn’t hear – I’m not putting you down, but you didn’t hear a thing I said. You just told me a few things, I want to repeat them back. I’m not criticizing you because you’re a great example for the culture of medicine we live in, and how we all think, and the way I used to think too.
Russ: Good to know.
Dr. Darrow: You said I have bone on bone, but it’s not painful, all right. Were those not your words?
Dr. Darrow: Okay. Why do you care if you have arthritis if it’s not painful?
Russ: Well, I don’t care, but I was just wondering what happens to that tissue.
Dr. Darrow: No, no, forget the wondering, for right now, we’re just going practical.
Russ: Okay, okay.
Dr. Darrow: You don’t have pain. Your knee doesn’t bother you.
Russ: Most of the time it doesn’t bother me.
Dr. Darrow: What’s your issue? Okay, well most of the time, that’s pretty darn good. So, let’s deal with most of the time. Do you need to deal with your knee?
Dr. Darrow: The answer is no. So why do you care if you have arthritis?
Russ: I don’t.
Dr. Darrow: Yeah, so why do you care if my treatment gets rid of it, when it’s not going to change you?
Russ: I don’t, I don’t care, I was just curious.
Dr. Darrow: No. I get it, well the curiosity part of it, I’m glad you asked really, thank you. The curiosity part is in many cases we can help get rid of the arthritis, and in many cases we cannot, it depends what type it is.
Dr. Darrow: If you’ve got some great big bony overgrowth, most likely that’s not going to dissolve away, but if it’s not causing a problem, why do I want to attack that? My mother God bless her, resting in heaven used to tell me, Marc, if it ain’t broken don’t fix it.
Russ: Well, that’s why I haven’t had anything done about it, so I’m learning to live with it.
Dr. Darrow: Because you’re a smart man.
Russ: Because I know it would be worse off.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, but we could probably help that little bit that does bother you. Yes, I think you’re in good shape Russ. I would stay away from the cortisone, I’d stay away from knives being put in your body and consider using platelets and stem cells. Go the easy way, the conservative way, and the way that doesn’t cause infections, and joints getting loose and oh, I don’t even want to get into it. I mean it’s – the stuff I see is ridiculous.
Russ: Well, you know there’s a whole another side…
Nita: Oh, I’m so sorry to cut you off, Russ, but we’re totally out of time, if you hear that music coming up under us. So, thank you for your call, please go to the website everybody that’s holding and reach Dr. Darrow at www.lastemcells.com.
Thank you Alex, thank you Suzette, and thank you Dr. Darrow.
Dr. Darrow: And thank you Nita Vallens. You’re a great host.
Nita: You’re welcome, and we will see you next time.
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