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Synopsis:

  • Introduction: Ideal protein, paleo delivers, vampire facelift
  • Email: Where do you get the stem cells from for treatment?
  • Caller: Low back and neck pain
  • Caller: knee pain, clicking. gets cortisone shots
  • Caller: neck pain
  • Caller: pain in neck. Marc did knee injections, doing good


  • Caller continued: pain in neck. Marc did knee injections, doing good,
  • Caller: hip labral tear
  • Caller: bulging disc
  • Caller: neck pain
  • Email: failed surgeries on both shoulders rotator cuff

Transcript

Living Pain Free 11/11/17

Narrator:  Are you living in pain?  Is it joint pain or muscle pain?  If so, stay tuned.  Welcome to Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow, from the Darrow Stem Cell Institute in West Los Angeles.

This is the program that can give you effective solutions for the pain you’ve been living with.  Dr. Darrow is a medical doctor, board certified in physical medicine and rehabilitation.  He teaches about the use of Prolotherapy, PRP and stem cells.  Today’s program could open up a new life without pain for you.  Now here’s Dr. Darrow with his co-host, Dr. Nita Vallens.

  • Nita:   Well, hi there Dr. Darrow.  How are you today?
  • Dr. Darrow:  I’m living it up as always, Nita.
  • Nita:  Well, that’s excellent.  So we want to thank Warren Eckstein for his fabulous show that just preceded us for two hours, called the Pet Show.  He takes care of pets, and we take care of people with musculoskeletal pain.  And we’re going to talk about that in the upcoming hour.  And the number that you can call in with your questions and comments to Dr. Darrow is 1-866-870-5752. And when you call the program today, you get a couple free things, a free booklet on age management medicine, a free booklet on the latest treatments of platelet-rich plasma and stem cells, a free book on Prolotherapy, and a brand new book called Regenerate, Don’t Operate.  You can go to the website and ask for your e-copy. You can email Dr. Darrow off of every page, and request your copy.  And remember we are here Saturdays at one p.m., and Sundays from one to two p.m. on 870 AM.  And we’re going to teach you lots of cool stuff today, so if you’re in musculoskeletal pain, get ready to call us.  The number again 1-866-870-5752.  And we have other treats for you later in the hour, such dietary issues, and facelift issues, and hair and all kinds of cool stuff, right?
  • Dr. Darrow: Well, why don’t you be specific about what it is, or I can do it if you like.
  • Nita: Well, I want to talk to people about the Vampire Facelift done by the fabulous Michelle Darrow, who is a nurse practitioner in the office, and also your wife, and we have something in the office called Ideal Protein, do you want to talk about that a little bit.
  • Dr. Darrow: Yes, for people who come in with lower extremity pain, that means, hips, knees, legs, feet, toes, you name it, if they are overweight I love when they lose the weight, because it helps me get them healed, that’s important, right?
  • Nita: Yes.

Dr. Darrow: And some people, it’s very strange, Nita, I don’t get it, they don’t want to lose the weight, and they don’t like when I talk about this whole process.  But I’m unfortunately folks, I’ve got to do it, because if you’re overweight, and you’re having problems with pain in the lower extremities, one of the most helpful things, this is by studies, and it’s by my own empirical evidence watching people for the last 20 years do this, a lot of the pain actually goes down, when they are thing, so we do have a program for it that’s called Ideal Protein, and it puts people into ketosis, that’s a hot word today, but we’ve known about it forever, where you actually eat your fat, and that is a great way not to be hungry, because you always have a meal stashed right around your tummy.

Nita: Literally, is that true?

  • Dr. Darrow: Yes, yes.  And I’m not on that diet.  I tried it for a week before I started using it for patients, it works so efficiently, I lost seven pounds in one week.  But I do the One Paleo Delivers, where they deliver food to me every night.  And that’s all paleo food, so that’s a great way to do it too.  So we’re open to all of that.

In terms of the Vampire Facelift, that’s what my wife, my beautiful wife Michelle does, it makes the face pretty, but the interesting thing about it, is it does it with the cells from your body, just like the work that I do in what we regenerative or biologic medicine.

What I do is I’ll take either your blood and spin it, and take the platelets out and inject those into your joints, ligaments and tendons to get rid of musculoskeletal pain, things like rotator cuff tears in the shoulder, labral tears in the shoulder, labral tears in the hip, arthritis, meniscal tears in the knee.  And this works really from the top of the head to the bottom of the feet, anywhere you need to grow back tissue, and rejuvenate the area.

But my wife picked up on what I was doing, and started doing it on the face, and making people more beautiful by rejuvenating the face.  So that’s a great thing to do also.  And she also do hair regrowth, using the platelets or stem cells from the bone marrow, which I do to regrow tissue on the body to get rid of pain.

Nita: Very complementary, I like it.

Dr. Darrow: Yes.

Nita: It all works together.

Dr. Darrow: So I have a question that came in on an email.  It says where does the stem cell come from, may I take that Nita?

Nita: Absolutely.  Let’s hear it.

Dr. Darrow: You’re ready to rock?

Nita: Ready to rock and roll.

Dr. Darrow: Let’s get this show going, and please as those of you who are tried and true listeners know, we get so many callers at the end of the show, that we can’t get to you, so please, if you want to call, please don’t be shy, we love your calls.  And I’d like to start to handling them now, so I can talk to everybody.  If you’re shy, just use a fake name, pretend it’s your mother or father, or your friend, that’s fine too.

And the number to call into the studio to have your questions answered is 866-870-5752, 866-870-5752.  If you happen to catch this show after it’s been recorded, because the station play it at other times, you can just call my office directly at 800-300-9300, that’s 800-300-9300 and just leave your name and phone if we’re busy, and we’ll get back to you.

It’s also a good place to call to see if your insurance is covering at least your first visit or ultrasound, aspiration of joints, and things of that nature.  We do take Medicare, Cigna, Aetna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, United Healthcare, but they don’t pay for everything, and you have to be careful.  Because some insurances are supposed to pay for a lot of stuff, and it just doesn’t.  There’s so many different plans available out there for people with no insurance, we can help them get a credit card called Care Credit, and that pays for medical procedure.  I think there’s no interest for a year, and after that you’ve got to be careful, you’ve got to pay it off within a year.

So this question that just came in was where do the stem cells come from?  And the stem cells are really all over the body, they’re produced everywhere.  They’re in the synovium of the knee, that’s the three layers of cells that produce lubricant for the knee.  I’m not in favor of injecting hyaluronic acid which is a lubricant, because the knees usually are pretty well lubricated already.

I am in favor of inject platelets from the blood, or stem cells from the bone marrow.  Now, why do I use it from the bone marrow?  In answer to this question, when we take it from bone marrow, we’re getting both platelets and stem cells number one, and number two, it’s very easy to do.  It doesn’t beat the patient up like taking it from fat, where people get black and blue, we have to make an incision and use a 10-inch trocar to beat the fat up.  Fat’s very hard, believe it or not, and it’s got to be beaten, literally to a pulp, in order to get it out, and then you have to use a big fat needle to inject it, because it’s very thick.

With bone marrow, I can inject that, believe it or not, through a 30-gauge needle instead of an 18-gauge needle with fat.  So the bone marrow is very easy for the patient, it’s very quick.  Once I numb the area up with a shot of lidocaine, which is done from the pelvis in the back, above the buttocks at what’s called the PSIS, the posterior superior iliac spine, generally it will take me about 10 to 20 seconds to get the bone marrow out, it’s a very quick procedure.  I’d say the average is about 12 to 15 seconds.  So it’s a quick, easy procedure.  The patients like it a lot better than using fat.

And that’s how that happens.  That’s how that rolls, as they say.

Nita: Okay, well we want your calls at 866-870-5752, and for some reason, Dr. Darrow I think it’s very difficult for some people to share about their pain.  I don’t know if that’s – what that’s about exactly.  I won’t psychoanalyze today, but that’s my other life.  But the thing is, don’t be ashamed, don’t be embarrassed, because this could be the day you have a solution to your chronic musculoskeletal pain.

So do give us a call.

Dr. Darrow: You know also the thing I like about the callers is their problem is usually ubiquitous to so many lovely listeners, so your call is going to educate other people too.  And the phone number to get to the station to ask a question is 866-870-5752.  So I’m going to take another one of these questions before we get callers in.

Nita: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: I see callers coming in.  This next one is I have lower back and neck pain.  So what I do for that?  Most of that, believe it or not, I don’t care what the doctor told you the problem is, number one, because most doctors diagnoses are based on MRIs or x-rays which can show you some problems, but it doesn’t mean that’s the pain generator.

Most neck and back pain is coming from the ligaments that are stretched out, what Nita loves to call the enthesis, so you end up with an enthesopathy, where the attachment of the muscle, ligaments, or tendons are to bone, become irritable and we can inject that with platelets from your blood, like I was just talking about, or stem cells from your bone marrow in an advanced case.

And it’s very simple to do.  I mean if it’s taking your blood, we just spin it and then we can inject right after that.  So it’s the same day procedure, you walk in the office, you have your blood drawn to get the PRP or platelet-rich plasma, then I do the injection, and you walk out, you don’t have to go to bed.  People go back to work, pretty simple.

Let’s get to these callers now, okay?  Thank you for call in by the way.

Nita: Yes, Larry in Simi Valley.

Dr. Darrow: Larry, how is your wife’s knees doing.

Larry: Oh, it’s kind of bad, because she gets up and she says she hears them click when she gets up, and she goes in and gets these cortisone shots which I guess makes her feel better when they do that.

Nita: So Larry, excuse me, one second can you turn your radio all the way off, please, because you’re echoing?

Larry: Sure.

Nita: Thank you.

Dr. Darrow: So I’m going to answer some of that while you’re turning the radio off Larry.  Cortisone is probably the worst thing you can put into a knee, because it destroys the cartilage that’s there.  So I like this way of saying it.  You win the battle and you lost the war.  You win the battle of pain immediately in most cases, so you feel good for a short period of time.  But then long term, you’ve created arthritis, and then what do you need?  A surgery, and then what do you need?  Another surgery.  And then what do you need?  A knee replacement.  Do you think that’s a good idea or bad idea?  I think it’s a terrible idea.

Larry: I do too, but I suggested…

Dr. Darrow: We still hear echoing my friend.

Nita: Larry, we still hear echoing, is your radio all the way off?

Larry: I thought it was, let’s see, oh there, how’s that?

Dr. Darrow: There we go.

Nita: Perfect.  Thank you.

Dr. Darrow: Thank you so much, we appreciate that.

Larry: I’m sorry.

Dr. Darrow: So I’m going to counsel people not to do cortisone shots, the feeling better is a short-term relief, you know to me it’s like heroin you’re going to feel better, but you might kill yourself.  Well in this case to me, and this is just my little opinion, one doc, you’re injuring your knee by doing it, so I wouldn’t do it.  And of course you can’t tell your wife to do, that’s what marriage is for, to not do what your spouse wants.  You don’t do what she wants, Larry, why should she do what you want, right.

Larry: I know.  Anyway she had cancer, and she was saying that she was afraid that because it’s a type of a cancer that spreads, that it would – you know you take platelets and stuff and you inject it in another spot is you’re taking a chance on spreading the cancer.

Dr. Darrow: Well, it depends where the cancer is.  If it’s cancer in the blood…

Larry: It was in her breast, she had the breast and lymph nodes.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, with breast cancer it’s generally not – yes, it’s not related to any of this, it’s a whole different universe.  But yes, there are certain cancers like leukemia where you’re not going to want to take blood or bone marrow, but we check all that out.  If someone does have a cancer, we’re often going to call their oncologist and see if what we’re doing is safe or not.  We don’t want to put anyone in trouble.

You know the first law of medicine Larry is, do no harm.  So I try to do my best in keeping people safe, and making them better, and you know my path is regenerative medicine, that’s what I’ve done for 20 years, and I don’t think surgery is safe.  I get too many people that have had terrible outcomes, I’m one of them.  I had a shoulder surgery when I was doing orthopedic surgery in medical school.  I couldn’t wait to get my shoulder operated on by my boss and it came out absolutely terrible.

A few years later I learned about regenerative medicine and I injected my own shoulder one night, believe it or not I was lying in bed watching TV, and my wife was – I should use the word expletives were coming out of her mouth, she didn’t like what I was doing.  And I said I’m experimenting on something and I want to try this, and the next morning I woke up pain free, and that shoulder was pain free for 12 years, until I reinjured it, and then I re-injected it myself again, and re-healed it.  So you know my experience with this is pretty amazing.  I get about 80 new patients a month, and we do research on every patient.  It doesn’t work on everybody, but most people get better.

So I think what you could do for you wife, at least is write down the website which is www.lastemcells.com, lastemcells.com and there’s even radio shows on there she could listen to, if she doesn’t want to listen live.  And she should start reading about this stuff.

By calling in today you’re going to get a copy of the new book on stem cells and PRP, which is called Regenerate, Don’t Operate.  It has all the research if your wife is a research-based person.  It’s all the research on why you shouldn’t do surgery, and why you should regenerate the area.  I didn’t make it up.  I’ve known it forever, but everyone always said where’s the research.  So I took that the last five years of my life, and I put the research together, and now it’s in a beautiful book.  So that’s yours.

Larry: Oh good.  All right, that’s great.

Dr. Darrow: God bless you Larry, and God bless your wife and I hope she does fine.

Larry: Well thank you very much.

Nita: Thank you for your call Larry.  Okay our number is 1-866-870-5752, 1-866-870-5752 and we’re going to Teddy in Costa Mesa.

Dr. Darrow: Teddy, Dr. Marc Darrow how long has your neck bothered you for?

Teddy: 20 plus years, and I made the mistake of having surgery.  And I’m wondering…

Dr. Darrow: Okay, why do you say – wait, wait, why do you say it was a mistake to have surgery?

Teddy: Because it didn’t help the pain at all coming down my arms, it made it worse, and my shaking, I can’t write either.

Dr. Darrow: Oh my goodness, I’m so sorry.  Are you having neck pain at all or is it mostly just symptoms down your arms or your hands.

Teddy: It comes down my arms and goes across my chest, and I’ve been taking Gabapentin for years, and it’s the only thing that helps.  I’ve gotten myself down…

Dr. Darrow: Do you have any neck pain?

Teddy: Without the Gabapentin, yes.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, well Gabapentin is an anti-seizure medicine, but it does seem to help some people with their pain.  When I was doing my residency at Cedar Sinai Hospital, there was a drug rep that was pitching Gabapentin, and I had a bout of low back pain at the time.  And she said this would help, and I took one pill, and I almost threw up, and I felt like I was sick, and drunk, and nauseated the entire day.  So I hope you don’t have those side effects.  I never took it again.

Teddy: No, I don’t.

Dr. Darrow: But there are people who take it, and swear by it.  I guess in the higher doses, it can make you feel better, but of course…

Teddy: I take 600 three to four times a day.

Dr. Darrow: So Teddy my job in my life is to serve people’s health, I try to get them off of any medication that I can, and heal the area.  I don’t know if I can help you.  You still haven’t really answered the question if you have neck pain today.

Teddy: Yes.

Dr. Darrow: Okay.  So probably I can help you with the neck pain by using platelets from your blood, I’m not sure about what’s going on in the arms, we’d have to have a conversation about that, you can either come in, and we can test it, we can touch the area, I’ll know in one minute, if I can help you and the phone number to the office if you want to check on your insurance is 800-300-9300, I’ll repeat it, it’s 800-300-9300, and if you want to just watch me inject the neck, there are videos on the website, see if it’s something you’re interest in, and that’s www.lastemcells.com, you can look at that right now, www.lastemcells.com, there’s several videos of me injecting different parts of the body, with stem cells or platelets.

Teddy: Can you inject even after surgery?

Dr. Darrow: Oh absolutely.  Yes.  I have people almost every day who come in who are surgical failures that I inject.  Any other questions, Teddy?

Teddy: No, I will check out your site, and I will call your office.  Thank you so much for answering my question.  That was it.

Dr. Darrow: Right, and plus on the website, you can email me from any page, so we can start a dialogue, okay?

Teddy: Thank you so much.  I appreciate it.

Dr. Darrow: God bless you Teddy, I’m glad you called in.

Teddy: God bless you.

Dr. Darrow: Well, thank you so much, I appreciate that very much.

Nita: Thank you Teddy, appreciate your call and our number is 1-866-870-5752, and remember we are here Saturdays at one p.m., also Sundays at one p.m. on 870 AM.  And the website again is www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com, and we’re going to Sonia in Los Angeles.

Dr. Darrow: Hey Sonia, Dr. Marc Darrow, who’s the pain in your neck?

Sonia: Oh hi, how are you?

Dr. Darrow: Who is that pain in your neck?

Sonia: It’s been several people, but…

Nita: We’ll take names.

Sonia: Yes.

Dr. Darrow: So how long has your neck – how long has your neck bothered you?

Sonia: Oh, but first I want to say that I’m recuperating from stem cells in the knee, and it’s going beautifully, in fact you did both knees, and it’s going beautifully.

Dr. Darrow: Good, thank you.

Sonia: And I bless you for being there, and for educating people.

Dr. Darrow: Well, thank you so much.

Sonia: And for sending me a book on all this stuff by email when I made an appointment with you.

Dr. Darrow: Yes.  Good, good.

Sonia: But somehow I’m not connecting with my problem with what was in the book about my neck.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, tell me why.

Sonia: So I’ve been told I had arthritis in the neck, but you know and then the pain would go away.  Then I was told I had degenerative disk and the pain would go away.  Well, with the decompression pain went away.  That’s been years ago.  Now, the pain is coming back here and there, and I wondered if the stem cell or hopefully platelets could help?

Dr. Darrow: Well, I have to touch the area.  Did I touch it when you were in the office?

Sonia: No, but I’ll be back in two weeks.

Dr. Darrow: Wait, Sonia I think I know who you are, you’re very funny.

Nita: That’s hilarious.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, when you come in – when you come in, just remind me about the neck, and it will take me one second literally to tell you if I can help you.  Most likely I can.

Sonia: Oh great.  You’re a miracle, oh thank you, thank you, thank you, okay, I’ll let you go.

Dr. Darrow: Well, you know I appreciate that I’m a miracle but the miracle really is the treatment, it’s so easy to do and it works so well.

Sonia: Yes, it does.

Dr. Darrow: You know Sonia, I’ve been using this on my body for 20 years.

Sonia: Well, I’m going to be using it for the rest of my life, but I hope I have 30 years left.

Dr. Darrow: I mean I go out and injure myself and when I do sports, I just do that, you know I’m a perfectionist.  I’m a perfectionist and I like to do sports really hard…

Sonia: Yes, you are.

Dr. Darrow: Yeah, you know I am.

Sonia: Yes, I’m a teacher, I read that about you, when I met you, I was very impressed.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, I mean talk about OCD, and you know what else have I got, Nita?

Nita: Avocado addiction.

Dr. Darrow: Yes.  I’m a very addictive person, so to give you an example, I’ve been practicing golf for a while very intensely, and I will go to an indoor place, where there’s video cameras on me, and I will – I’ll get to this afterwards.

Nita: Whoops, I hear the banjo.

Dr. Darrow: You stay with us Sonia.

Nita: Hold on Sonia, hold on Dr. Darrow.  We’re going to take our quick little halftime break here on Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow.  I’m your host Nita Vallens, and we will take your calls all the rest of the hour at 1-866-870-5752, so right now grab a pen, write down this important information about to come your way and we’ll be right back.

[Break]

Narrator:      Whether you have pain in your back or joints, surgery may not be the answer.  Instead of the dangers involved in cutting out tissue, consider healing and rejuvenating the area with stem cells, platelet-rich plasma or Prolotherapy, the treatments that are available to professional athletes are now available for you.  Watch the videos at jointrehab.com or call the Darrow Wellness Institute at 800-300-9300, 800-300-9300, that’s 800-300-9300.

Nita: Welcome back to Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow.  I’m your host Nita Vallens.  We’re taking your calls at 1-866-870-5752, lines are open for you right now.  And you can also get information from Dr. Darrow’s website which is www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com and right now we are speaking with Sonia in Los Angeles.

Dr. Darrow: Sonia, Marc Darrow, how are you?

Sonia: Yes, thank you, I’m fine.

Dr. Darrow: You’re still with us.

Sonia: I’m great.

Dr. Darrow: Let me just reiterate a little bit about what we’re doing on the show right now.  First of all, Sonia is a patient of mine, she had stem cells on her knees, and she called in today and asked about her neck, and asked if she could get away using platelets instead of stem cells.  Usually the answer is yes.  Usually if it’s a tendon type injury, ligaments things like that in the neck, all we need are platelets.

What is there jet plane flying around your house?

Sonia: Oh no, it’s cars, but that’s wonderful news, I was hoping for that.

Dr. Darrow: Well, I’ve got to touch your neck when you come in next time, and I can tell you if I can help.

Sonia: Oh thank you, thank you.

Dr. Darrow: Usually I can.  So anyway so I was telling the listeners that I’m a perfectionist, and Nita says I’m addicted blah, blah, blah.

Nita: Only to avocados and golf.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, and I just wanted to mention something about golf, thank you Nita.

Nita: You’re welcome.

Dr. Darrow: I spend probably in front of a video camera, two cameras actually at one time about five hours to 10 hours a week in front of a camera perfecting my golf swing.

Sonia: Wow.

Dr. Darrow: Now, it sounds like fun, right?

Nita: No.

Dr. Darrow: But what happens, the repetition – the repetition hits things, it hits my wrist, it hits my shoulder, it hits my neck.  Right now I’m dealing with a posterior tibial tendonitis right below my right ankle in the middle part.  So I get these things constantly, because whatever I do, if it’s running, I’ve got to sprint with my two Huskies yanking me up and down the mountains, my body loves exercise.

And I injure myself, thank goodness not too bad, but enough that I have to inject myself every once in a while.

Sonia: Wow.

Dr. Darrow: So I’ve been doing that for 20 years, and I am hoping till the day I die, I have to inject myself, because that means I’ve been super active.  I’m the guy that when I run up and down the stairs, I got at least two stairs at a time.  I don’t ever want to admit to myself that the body ages, because it does, because inside my spirit life is very, very young.

I mean when people say how old are you, I tell I’m 16 years old.  And I don’t know why everybody can’t do that.  It’s a state of mind.

Sonia: Somebody asked me how old you were, and I said I have no idea.

Dr. Darrow: Well, that’s the truth.  I have no idea either, because there’s no definitive number for it.

Nita: Maybe your body is not really aging at all.

Dr. Darrow: Oh, no, it’s aging.  It’s a normal body, it does what bodies do.  But I think if you saw the body you wouldn’t think it was the age it was.

Sonia: No, you don’t.

Dr. Darrow: I’m one of those guys.

Sonia: Because I can’t even guess it, and I used to dance.  But thank you, I will do exactly what you say.  And I’m looking for – for another book.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, when you come in, Sonia, I know you’re coming in, when did you say in two weeks or something?

Sonia: Yes.

Dr. Darrow: When you come in, just mention your neck, and I’ll go right to that, we’ll touch it and move it around, and see if the PRP is the way to help you heal that up.

  • Sonia: Thank you.

Dr. Darrow: God bless you Sonia, I really love you so much.  You’re an amazing person.

Nita: I love you too, and I don’t even know you.

Dr. Darrow: The staff lights – the staff just lights up when you come in the office, you’ve always got a smile and a laugh.

Sonia: Oh well thank you.

Dr. Darrow: You know we’re there to help people heal and make them feel good, but it’s rare that somebody comes in like you and just is there to heal us too, I mean there aren’t many patients that do that, but there’s you know a great majority that come in with their mouth in an upside down smile, and I try to turn it around for him.

Sonia: I’m sure you do.  You might not see it, but I’m sure you do, because the treatment is a miracle, I can’t believe we hadn’t done this earlier.

Dr. Darrow: Well God bless you, I appreciate the kudos.

Sonia: You’re there for us, thank you.

Nita  Thank you Sonia, appreciate your call.

Dr. Darrow: Thank you.

Sonia: Have a great day.  Bye.

Dr. Darrow: What a great person she is.

Nita: She’s fabulous, okay our number is 1-866-870-5752 for your call, that’s 1-866-870-5752, and we’re going to Corey in Lake Forest.

Corey: Hey.

Dr. Darrow: Hey Corey, Dr. Marc Darrow.

Corey: Yes, I just was listening to you and I was very intrigued, because I have a labral tear in my hip, and I was wondering if that’s something that would be – I’d be a candidate for your type of treatment?

Dr. Darrow: Well, let’s talk about it, first, okay.

Corey: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: How long has your hip bothered you?

Corey: Well, it’s probably been about six years now.

Dr. Darrow: Okay.  And do you have a good range of motion of that leg?

Corey: Yes, I do.  Actually I exercise still, because I’m you know a very active type of person, but as far as like climbing hills, and I was a big runner, so I’ve kind of toned down quite a bit on that, and if I do actually run, I run pretty – on flat surfaces now.  It does get sore in my back, and then the front area of my hip area.

Dr. Darrow: Okay.  So your back is sore when you run a lot, and you’re talking about hip pain being in the groin, or somewhere else?

Corey: Yes, it’s kind of like in the groin, in the lower back on my right side, and then down kind of like you know where you’re – I guess, I don’t know my body parts very well, but – you know yes, I guess in my groin area there.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, so in the front.

Corey: Between like where my hip and my leg are.

Dr. Darrow: Right in the front, but not in the back you mean?

Corey: Yes, actually it radiates, it does go through kind of the back and the front at times.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, so did an x-ray get taken, or an MRI?

Corey: Um-hmm, an MRI did.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, most people that I see have little labral tears, okay.  And that can be in the shoulder, it can be in the hip, you know the meniscus is like that, there’s a lot of areas in the body that have these little cushions, and I don’t personally find that labral tears cause pain, okay.

Corey: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: And that’s just personal to me, you know I’m one doctor.

Corey: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: Often it’s – I mean I’d have to examine you to see what I’m talking about first.  I’m kind of shooting from the hip right here, being on the radio.  But I’m not so sure that’s a problem for you, and we do inject – I do inject labral tears every day, and I use an ultrasound, so I can put the needle right on it, and shoot the juice, meaning you know it’s either – with me it’s going to be stem cells from your bone marrow, with platelets from the bone marrow, or it’s going to just be platelets from your blood onto the area.

But I’d have to move you around and examine you to see what I think is going on.

Corey: Okay.  What is your – oh, I’m sorry go ahead.

Dr. Darrow: Arthritis was not mentioned?

Corey: No, there’s some very mild, but they didn’t think it was that, and I did take a fall, actually I’ve had a couple of falls because I used to kind of run in the mountains and the hills.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, join my club.  I’m with you on that one, yes.

Corey: Yes, so I think something must have happened at one of those events, because I do remember one time I fell, and it was oh my God, it was like a week of just pain, you know I couldn’t hardly walk.

Dr. Darrow: So let me give you an alternate idea here Carey – is it Corey or Carey?

Corey: Corey.

Dr. Darrow: Corey, I’m sorry, so Corey let’s pretend, we’re just doing pretend, because that’s the kind of doctor I am.  I’m a pretend doctor, meaning I think outside the box.  Let’s pretend you’ve had a labral tear, how old are you by the way?

Corey: I’m just 54 now.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, let’s pretend you’ve had it since you were 20 years old, so let’s pretend you’ve had a labral tear for 34 years okay.  And let’s pretend it never caused you any pain.

Corey: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: You can pretend that with me?

Corey: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: Now, the reason I’m saying that is because doctors do MRI studies on people, who have no pain, and guess what they find?

Corey: Labral tear?

Dr. Darrow: Labral tears.  Yes, so let’s pretend you’ve had a labral tear for 34 years, and then you fall down, and you torque your leg a little bit, and you end up with pain, and then a doctor gets an MRI, and he says oh my God, you tore your labrum when you fell.  Does he know that?  Answer the question, does he know that?

Corey: No.

Dr. Darrow: No, so you see the way I think?

Corey: Yes.

Dr. Darrow: So I get people every day who come in, oh I’ve got a – I tore my meniscus on February 13th.  Really, how do you know that?  Well, because the doctor did an MRI and told me.  No.  We don’t know that.  And the other thing is there are MRIs that show things that aren’t really there, they’re overly sensitive.  A labral tear generally is a very, very minimal little thing that you can barely see on an MRI anyway.  I use the ultrasound to look at it, which I think does a better job, because it’s live time, you know it’s moving, I can see it.

But at any rate, I would love to see you, if you want to come in and do a quick exam, and give you my two cents.  We can put an ultrasound on it, while you’re getting an examination and take a look inside.

Corey: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: And see what I think is happening.  If you want to come in, or if you just want to check and see if your insurance will cover the visit, it’s 800-300-9300, I’ll repeat it for you people running for a pen, or driving, it’s 800-300-9300 and you can also go to my website to see videos of me injecting hips and using the ultrasound and you can watch on the ultrasound to see where that needle is going.  And the website is www.lastemcells.com.

Corey: Great.  Thank you very much.

Dr. Darrow: All right, Corey I appreciate your call and God bless you.

Corey: Oh thank you very much, you have a good day.

Nita: Thank you.

Dr. Darrow: And I would like to just give some general information to people that we do use these techniques that I use on the body, my wife does them, Michelle, that we call her the beautiful Michelle who does these techniques on faces, to make faces look pretty and re-grow the collagen in the face, so we can take stem cells from the bone marrow, or we can just take platelets from the blood to make you prettier.  And believe it or not, as many men come to do this, as females.

And we also do hair loss.  So we can use these same cells and put them on the top of the head and grow tissue.  And both these things are mentioned in my book, Regenerate, Don’t Operate.  So if you’re reading about your musculoskeletal pain, if you get to the back of the book, you’ll see these issues.

Nita, by the way have you gotten any books from us yet?

Nita: I did not get them yet.  I was just think; as soon as we’re off the air, I’m going to send you a little email reminder, so you can…

Dr. Darrow: Okay, remind me, we’ll send it out Monday.  Beautiful.  Also I do use the Ideal Protein diet for people that have pain in their lower extremity, meaning their legs, anywhere from hip down to toes, and we know from research, that if you are overweight, that can cause arthritis.  So please get – you know start losing weight before you come see me, if not, I’m going to mention it to you, don’t get mad at me, it’s for your own highest good that I mention it.  There are people that get mad at me.  Why are you talking about my weight.  I came here for a magic bullet.  There’s no magic bullet, sorry.  We work as a partnership.  I do my side, you do your side.  If you want to not talk about diet, tell me right up front, and I will honor who you are.  I won’t mention it.  Is that fair?

Nita: Very fair.  You also taught us that for every extra pound we’re carrying in our body, that’s four extra pounds of weight on the knees.  So if you lose 10 pounds you actually in essence lose 40 pounds of weight off your knees, is that correct?

Dr. Darrow: Yes, I mean there’s studies that show that if you lose weight, your knee pain goes down.  So I don’t get it.  I don’t know why people try to fight for their weight.  They give me every possible reason why they shouldn’t be losing weight, or what they did in the past and that didn’t work.  We do have this program that does work, it’s never failed for anybody I know of.

Nita: That’s fabulous, so call the office and find out about Ideal Protein at 800-300-9300, and our number for your calls right now is 1-866-870-5752, and we’re going to go to Laurie in Burbank.

Dr. Darrow: Hey Laurie, Dr. Marc Darrow, hang with me one second, I wanted to mention something, Laurie hang with me, please, can you hear me?

Laurie:          I can hear you.

Dr. Darrow: Good, good, just give me a second here, I want to mention something.  We’ve had several people who called in about their necks, and you’re one of them.

Nita: Okay thank you, Laurie.

Dr. Darrow: When people have bulges in their neck, you know the disks, that generally does not cause pain.  The point is this, we get people all the time in studies that have no pain and have disk bulges, okay.  So don’t think that because there’s a disk bulge that someone has, that it’s a pain generator.  Typically the pain generator is the ligaments in the neck to the back.

I also want to say, that even though we’ve had several calls on necks today, these procedures of using cells from your body, we call biological medicine or regenerative medicine work pretty much all over the musculoskeletal system.

We often inject the back of the head, for people that have headaches into where the muscles attach at the occiput, which is the back of the head, down the neck into the shoulders, into the muscles, where the muscles attach to bone, to you know just about anywhere in the body, the elbows, the wrists, the fingers, the hips, the knees, the ribs, we get a lot of people with rib pain, it’s something called costochondritis.  And people don’t usually know how to heal that, but these regenerative medicine treatments generally will heal that.

And then all the way down to the knee and the feet, and the toes, and the ankles, and all that, the bottom of the feet, plantar fasciitis.  So I just wanted to mention that because sometimes a show will take a certain track, where people call in because of a certain thing over and over.  And I want you to know that these techniques work all over the body.

Nita: Sounds good.

Dr. Darrow: Karen, you ready?  Another neck.

Nita: I know, today is neck day, Karen in Los Angeles.

Dr. Darrow: Hey Karen, Dr. Marc Darrow.

Karen: Hello, hi, how are you?

Dr. Darrow: How long has your neck bothered you for?

Karen: Oh forever, at least 10 years.

Dr. Darrow: Okay.

Karen: I think they went and did an x-ray on it, they noticed that it’s a little degenerative, something going on, it’s kind of straight versus a little curve.  So it bothers me.  But Dr. Darrow, my question is I just heard you telling someone you won’t be able to use stem cells or the plasma, or the platelets, I have an M-cyte.  Is that a cause of concern in terms of doing anything like that?

Dr. Darrow: Wait, wait, I’m losing some of this information.  You said I told somebody that I can’t use platelets or stem cells.

Karen: About no if there’s – if they had any sort of – I don’t – God forbid there’s no cancer but there’s an M-cyte which is in the bone marrow, would that be a problem, at any rate if ever I wanted to come to and do something as far as stem cells or…

Dr. Darrow: Emcyte has a lot of medical meanings, first of all.  There’s actually an EmCyte Corporation that has you take bone marrow out with a kit.  So I’m not sure exactly what you mean.  If you could be more specific about what the issue is.

Karen: Well, the issue with my neck is just neck pain, but the M-cyte, it’s a cyte in my blood, in the bone marrow.

Dr. Darrow: Can you say – can you tell me how you’re spelling it?

Karen: Oh, it’s just an M cyte.  And this is M is for – the M stands for monoclonal…

Dr. Darrow: Oh, monoclonal – I got you, monoclonal.

Karen: Yes.

Dr. Darrow: Okay.  I have to – okay, here’s what you’d need to do with me.  You can either come in if you like, and we can go over that, or you can email me through the website, if you want to come in, the number is 800-300-9300.  When you call they’ll take the information and present it to me.

Or if you want to, you can go to the website which is www.lastemcells.com, and you can email me directly with the medical information, and I’ll get you back an answer before you come in.  Just say you talked to me on the radio, and…

Karen: Okay, then I’ll go ahead and do that.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, it sounds great, and then we can discuss it, and I’ll know more about what you’re talking about.  It’s kind of inappropriate on the radio right this second, to get into all those details.

Karen: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: The chances are I can help you though.

Karen: Okay, okay, that’s all I wanted to know, okay, thank you so much.

Dr. Darrow: Okay, God bless you Karen.

Nita: Thank you Karen, appreciate your call.  Our number is 1-866-870-5752, I still have lines open for you.  And if you’d like to go to the website, that is www.lastemcells.com, that’s lastemcells.com where there’s many research articles, and you can email Dr. Darrow off of every page on the site.

And you can also send an email requesting an e-Book of the brand new book by Dr. Darrow called Regenerate, Don’t Operate.

Dr. Darrow: So let me take a question here Nita.

Nita: Okay.

Dr. Darrow: Which covers a lot of issues for people to understand.  What the person asked is I have had a failed surgery for massive rotator cuff tears, one in each shoulder.  And then the person states because the surgery failed and they tore apart again, which is not uncommon.  I’ve seen it many times.  Can these biological treatments of stem cells or platelets help?

The answer most likely is yes.  I have had endless people with unrepairable, according to the surgeon, tears who have gotten a full range of motion with reduced or eliminated pain.  Now, did that mean that those tears healed back up?  No.  If you can’t put them together surgically, you’re not going to be able to put them together with stem cells or platelets.

So what does that mean, if you distill all of this information, it means that those tears are not necessarily the pain generator.  So people please get over this orthopedic model that when you see an anatomical deficiency it equals pain.  It may, or it may not.  We’ve got to be – as doctors we’ve got to be Sherlock Holmes.

Nita: Thank you Alex, thank you Suzette, I’m sorry, that’s all the time we have for today, but grab a pen and write down this important information about to come your way and remember to go to the website lastemcells.com and we’ll see you next time.


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