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  • Part 1:
  • Caller: Knee problems
  • Caller: Knee problems
  • Caller: Knee problems
  • Caller: Elbow problems
  • Part 2:
  • Caller: Elbow problems
  • Caller: Back Pain
  • Caller: Sciatica
  • Caller: Left Knee


Narrator: Are you living in pain? Is it joint pain or muscle pain? If so, stay tuned. Welcome to Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow, from the Darrow Stem Cell Institute in West Los Angeles.
This is the program that can give you effective solutions for the pain you’ve been living with. Dr. Darrow is a medical doctor, board certified in physical medicine and rehabilitation. He teaches about the use of Prolotherapy, PRP and stem cells. Today’s program could open up a new life without pain for you. Now here’s Dr. Darrow with his co-host, Dr. Nita Vallens.

Nita: Well, hi there Dr. Darrow. How are you today?

Dr. Darrow: I’m living it up. I just ran with the puppies.

Nita: Oh you ran with Dakota, Bella and Mia?

Dr. Darrow: Little Mia, the little baby, boy am I echoing?

Nita: All three of them?

Dr. Darrow: Can you hear my echo?

Nita: Yes, I’m echoing – I feel like I’m echoing a little bit too.

Dr. Darrow: I’m echoing big time, now they just got rid of it, thank you Alex.

Nita: Okay, thank you Alex, yay! All right, well we have a lot to tell you today. Warren was off site doing a remote broadcast from somewhere in the Valley, and we always want to acknowledge him and thank him for promoting us, and we promote him in turn by letting you know that he’s on the air the two hours prior to us on Saturday. And he takes care of animals, and we take care of people with musculoskeletal pain.
And you’ll get to call Dr. Darrow today at 1-866-870-5752, lines are open for you right now. When you call the program today, you get some free books including the latest one Regenerate, Don’t Operate, and the website where you can email Dr. Darrow and get a free e-copy of that book if you prefer is, that’s

And also remember we are here Saturdays at one p.m. and Sundays from one to two o’clock on 870 AM. So until we get some calls, would you like to grace us with an email question.

Dr. Darrow: Yes. I would – gracing, I’m not sure, but we do get emails all day long, all night long. And as you folks, who are my patients know I answer all of them very quickly, and I’m a great communicator. All my patients get my cell number, and I beg them to stay in touch with me, so I can help them.

Unfortunately, people think they’re bothering me, because I’m a doctor. Well, that’s silly. You know we’re all human beings, and we all have to help each other, and my job in life is a really great one, because I get to help in a way that works very well using regenerative medicine, which is using cells from your body, and those can be either platelets from your blood, or we can get from your bone marrow platelets and stem cells at the same time, so it’s like two treatments at one time.

So this person says hello, I would like to consult Dr. Darrow about my left knee. I have swelling at times. I have been told there is arthritis involved. I’m 45 years old. Thank you.

So yes, we deal with arthritis all day long, all over the body, and these injections how grow back the cartilage, and the menisci and all these other things that people have problems with in the knees. In the shoulders we get labral tears, hips we get labral tears, shoulders, have the rotator cuff which is four tendons that hold the humerus which is the arm bone into place, and help move it around.

So the nice thing about these treatments with stem cells and platelets is it doesn’t matter where in the body you have your problem, because we are made out of collagen. That’s the structural protein of the body. And yes, we can help this person, the swelling often means that there is arthritis, the arthritis irritates the synovial layer of tissue inside the joint, there’s three layers of cells called the synovium, and they produce a little bit of lubricant.

But when you have arthritis or a knee that’s been operated on, we often see a lot of fluid in there, and that’s over excessive production. So what we do is we use an ultrasound for all of our knee, hip and shoulder injections, and other parts of the body too, it’s not needed everywhere, and some places it’s mandatory. Don’t ever get a shoulder shot, or a hip shot, or a knee shot without an ultrasound, the doctor cannot see where that solution is going.

So yes, it’s pretty simple, with the platelets we just draw your blood, we spin it, and then we inject it, and with the stem cells, we just aspirate bone marrow, it’s very quick, once I numb up the area, it takes less than a minute to get the bone marrow out, then we spin it, and then we inject it.

So yes.

Nita: All right, then, so our number is 1-866-870-5752, 1-866-870-5752, lines are open for you right now, and I feel like I’m coming through a little noisy Alex, like there’s something, a little feedback or something, I don’t quite know what it is.

Dr. Darrow: Yes, I hear a little hissy stuff.

Nita: Yes, so maybe I’m like too hot or something, or I’m backing off from the mike.

Dr. Darrow: Yeah, you’re hot baby.

Nita: I am hot. So wait until we go on Facebook live one of these days, and we’ll just see how hot you are.

Dr. Darrow: I can’t wait until we get that going.

Nita: Despite that alleged hair going away on top of your head, that you talk about.

Dr. Darrow: Yeah, I’m sick of it. I’m sick of that hair.

Nita: Yeah, I’m sure you are. Well now I sound really normal, don’t I?

Dr. Darrow: Yes, you sound a lot better.

Nita: That’s perfect, thank you Alex, okay. So Alex is a genius, our engineer. So what I want to tell you also is to give us a call with your musculoskeletal pain issues. Don’t be shy, 1-866-870-5752 because you are speaking for many people when you call. Many people have the same problem you have, and we know that 30 to 40 percent of Americans are in chronic pain. And some of you are in pain for like 10 years, 20 years, etc.

Dr. Darrow: Fifty years, I’ve had people 50, 60 years that we’ve been able to heal.

Nita: Yikes!

Dr. Darrow: It’s not the amount of time that you’ve been in discomfort, it’s the injury itself, and people come in and they want to tell me their stories from 50 years ago, and I try to politely say, that’s all nice, but what’s relevant is what’s going on today.
Nita: Good point.
Dr. Darrow: And some people don’t like when I say that, they want to have someone listen to them for a long time.
Nita: Well, that’s my job.
Dr. Darrow: Which I try to do my best.
Nita: Yes, your job is that you fix the pain right away, we’re going to go to Marisol in Santa Anna.
Dr. Darrow: Hey Marisol, Dr. Marc Darrow, I understand that your knees are bothering you, and we’re getting a lot of feedback. Is that your radio Marisol?
Nita: Marisol, can you turn your radio all the way off, please.
Marisol: Sure. Thank you, can you hear me?
Nita: Yes.
Dr. Darrow: You’ve got noise in the background, Marisol, I don’t know if there’s kids there, or what’s going on.
Marisol: Yes, let me try to get to a place that’s nice and quiet, is that better?
Dr. Darrow: Yes, that’s a lot better, I appreciate that, thank you.
Nita: Thank you.
Dr. Darrow: So what’s up with your knees? How long have they bothered you for?
Marisol: They have been bothering for me a while now, maybe about two months, but I do exercise, I’ve been doing a lot of you know squats and the leg press, and I think I just damaged my cartilage, because when I you know bend my knees, I start to hear crackling inside.
Dr. Darrow: Yes. Here’s what’s going on. The patella, which is the round bone in front of the knee fits into a track in the femur, the thigh bone. And as you bend your knee, the patella digs itself into that track deeper. It’s supposed to slide smoothly, but I’m going to just tell you right now, no one likes me for this. People who do deep squats and deep leg presses, are in for injuries.
It’s not a – I know it builds up your hamstrings and your gluteus muscles, so you end up with a pretty backside, but that’s not a good thing for anybody’s knees. I’ve never seen anyone who does these, you know in excess who gets away without knee problems. I had a woman in yesterday from South Dakota, she was a mail carrier, and very, very rural place that she works in, so she’s got to wear snow shoes, and clamp-on’s and things like that, and digs through snow. That’s like doing squats, and I said you really can’t do that anymore with the knees you have, they were grinding away.
And she needed stem cells to fix them, and then she needs to chill a little bit, and you need to do the same.
Marisol: Yes, that would be great.
Dr. Darrow: So I hate telling people they shouldn’t do something that they love to do.
Marisol: Yes, for sure.
Dr. Darrow: But the problem is for a…
Marisol: And my knees, I need them for the rest of my life, so I need to make sure that I fix them.
Dr. Darrow: That’s right, that’s right.
Marisol: And I was scared that perhaps I had done irreversible damage to my legs, and I didn’t want to happen.
Dr. Darrow: Well, we can often grow back enough tissue to heal your knees, but I’m going to ask you if you decide to come in, that you start chilling a little bit on those squats. The squats if you do them, I like it no more than 45 degrees down, not 90 degrees for sure. And I think you know a lot of pain with some stem cell therapy would heal that up pretty well.
Marisol: That would be great, thank you.
Dr. Darrow: God bless you, and good luck.
Marisol: God bless you too, thank you for doing this.
Dr. Darrow: Marisol, what we call this is the type of arthritis we call it patellofemoral syndrome, the patella and femur are grinding, and people that have that often their knees ache when they’re sitting on an airplane, or they’re cramped up or in a movie theater, well the new movie theaters you know the way they’ve redone with these wonderful leather reclining chairs are much better for knees.
But that’s a telltale sign, what we call pathognomonic sign of patellofemoral syndrome, and it sounds like that’s that you have.
Marisol: Okay.
Nita: Thank you so much.
Dr. Darrow: God bless you darling.
Nita: Okay, our number if 1-866-870-5752, 1-866-870-5752 and we’re going to Armando in Cerritos.
Dr. Darrow: Armando, Dr. Marc Darrow, were you just listening to my conversation with Marisol?
Armando: I sure was, Dr. Darrow. It’s good to hear you and I always listen to your show, and I try to take all the advice I can.
Dr. Darrow: Good for you, are you in a car?
Armando: Yes, I’m in my van currently on my way to doing a job in beautiful San Diego from Cerritos, and these knees they bother me every day.
Dr. Darrow: And when you say a job, are you on your knees, or bending and squatting a lot.
Armando: Well, I’m a forklift mechanic and there’s a lot of heavy requirements, a lot of lifting and stuff, and my injuries come from you know old sports injuries, football and basketball. I’m 43 years old, and like I said I’ve had three meniscectomies on my right knee, and I’ve been listening to your show, I regret every single one of them.
Dr. Darrow: Well, I wouldn’t regret anything, you are what you are, let’s move forward, I mean you need stem cells for that. Anytime someone has a surgery to remove tissue, they’re going to need stem cells, PRP probably will not do the job for a major case like that.
That’s major excavation that’s been done on your knee.
Armando: Of wow, yes.
Dr. Darrow: As a forklift guy, you know what I’m talking about.
Armando: Oh yes, exactly. But my knee doesn’t – just it swells sometimes on its own, and then it goes away, I can’t bend my knee anymore the same degree as the other one, it’s just I can’t even straighten it out anymore.
Dr. Darrow: Well, there’s good hope ahead for you Armando because the stem cells mixed with the platelets can often heal that up. I’d have to examine your knee obviously, and see if you’re a candidate. But it sounds like you are, you’re still pretty active, so the knee may be bothersome, but we can probably grow enough cartilage back to make you happy.
And yes, most doctors don’t believe this works, because they haven’t done it. It’s not their business. The guys in this field are mostly surgeons, and of course, they believe in cutting tissue out, and I feel bad for them, for what they’re creating with people, and I feel bad for their patients.
Because there’s a new healer in town. I’ve been doing this 20 years with regenerative medicine and I’ve always been laughed at, scoffed at, and called the devil, but I guarantee you this works on most people.
Armando: Well, that’s great. It’s just – I really wish insurance would cover this, like I said it’s just – it’s worth saving up some money to do it, and I really want to do it, I tell you.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, well, there’s a lot of issues around that Armando, number one we take a lot of insurance companies, but they don’t pay for everything. So we take Medicare, Cigna, Aetna, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, United Healthcare, and that will often take care of the first visit, and we take Care Credit for those people that don’t have any insurance, it’s like a credit card for medical procedures.
Armando: Oh good. Now my question to you is this a painful process? Like I heard you earlier say you can take from the femur or from your marrow, is that process invasive, is it painful? How does it work?
Dr. Darrow: No, we numb up the area with a shot of lidocaine it’s in the back above the buttocks on what’s called the PSIS, the posterior superior iliac spine, you can look that up on Google. And we just numb it up, put a needle in there, and then aspirate out the bone marrow, and the platelets at the same time, they come from the same area.
Armando: Okay, and like you said I’m a prior cancer patient, like I said it’s just I know that going through a lot of chemo and radiation back in the day, just you know like my body obviously got very weak, and like I said trying to go through the [00:14:54] enough, just like I said, it’s been a long road, and like I said I’m trying to get back into shape and my knee you know took a toll, and I can’t run anymore, so I just walk a lot, and I ride bikes, because it makes me feel better, because I like to stay healthy.
Dr. Darrow: Well, I hear you, and I think there’s great hope for you.
Armando: Thank God, now you’re located…
Dr. Darrow: God bless you man, we’re going to be moving on right now, so we’ve got other people waiting.
Nita: Thank you for your call, Armando, the office number is 800…
Dr. Darrow: Also, Armando, hang on a second, Nita. Armando, you can always email me through the website which is there’s a spot to email me on every page, I get back to everybody, and we can start a dialog that way.
I suggest people call the office at 800-300-9300, 800-300-9300 in order to find out if their insurance covers their first visit at least. And see what else is covered. Typically, the ultrasound guided aspiration of fluid, the effusions as we call them is covered also. So Nita I’m sorry to interrupt you, go ahead.
Nita: Oh, that’s okay, I just wanted to make sure Armando left with the phone number, and you took care of it, so thank you very much.
Dr. Darrow: All right.
Nita: And the number to call us right now to talk to Dr. Darrow is 1-866-870-5752, that’s 1-866-870-5752 and we are going to Monique in Tustin.
Dr. Darrow: Hey Monique, Dr. Marc Darrow, before I talk to you, I want to just mention we’ve been getting a lot of calls about knees today, which is cool, but I want everybody to know that these processes of regenerating your tissue works all over the body, in the musculoskeletal system.
Any ligament, tendon, joints, you name it can heal up, and I say “can”, I don’t promise anyone anything, and it’s a little irritating that I have to tell people there is no guarantees, because if they would stick with the program, and do enough treatment, usually they’re going to heal up. The question is how much does it take? The answer is I don’t know. Because you’re the one telling me when you’re healed.
I can’t look at an MRI to decide if you have pain or not. Don’t get suckered into getting a surgery because you have an MRI that shows something, okay. Be very, very careful, we have way too many people who come after a failed surgery, that’s right, they went, they got the surgery, it made them worse. And they say well the doctor looked at the MRI, I asked didn’t the doctor examine you and touch your body? No. Now is that crazy? It is to me. You’ve got to do the examination, find out where the pain is coming from.
The studies that are shown today, show that you cannot trust an MRI to decide where your pain is coming from. Way too many people have terrible MRIs and have no pain. And way too many people have pain, and don’t have anything on their MRIs.
Now, when you come in the office and talk to me, don’t say I don’t like MRIs, I do like them, but we use them as secondary information. We do need to look every once in a while we’re going to pick up something strange. I’ve picked up many cancers, believe it nor, using x-rays and MRIs.
We want to know you’re safe. So we always some type of imaging, even if my exam shows it’s somewhat else than the MRI shows me.
Now, Monique, you’re up, are you with us?
Monique: Thank you for taking my call, I really appreciate it. I have very bad osteoarthritis in both knees. And I don’t want to get surgery, but it really rules my life, every day and at night too.
Dr. Darrow: Hey, by the way Monique is the first time you’ve listened to our show?
Monique: Yes.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, good, well, I’m glad you’re a first timer, and you’re getting information that hopefully can save you from a surgery. I’m going to be honest, I can’t count the times on one hand that I’ve sent people to surgery in the last 20 years. I’m not a believer…
Monique: Yes, I don’t want to get surgery. I do not want surgery.
Dr. Darrow: I, in my training loved doing orthopedic surgery, it’s so much fun, until my boss in medical school did one on my right shoulder, and it completely jacked that shoulder. And it wasn’t until a few years later that I learned about regenerative medicine that I injected my own shoulder, and healed it up within 12 hours I was pain free.
Monique: Oh my goodness.
Dr. Darrow: Now, it’s like that for everybody. I’ve been very fortunate.
Monique: Yes.
Dr. Darrow: I’ve injected my shoulders, I’ve injected my elbows, my wrist, my knee, I’ve had my neck and back done, I can’t reach back there to do that, but I’ve had amazing success very quickly with all these procedures. And some people don’t heal – most people don’t heal as fast as I do, to be honest.
Monique: Right, right.
Dr. Darrow: But most people do heal, not everybody.
Monique: Okay, well, I’d be happy…
Dr. Darrow: So there’s good hope that we can make you better. What better means, you have to decide.
Monique: Okay.
Dr. Darrow: So I’m going to give the number to check out your insurance, get an insurance verification. The office is 800-300-9300, I’ll repeat it, 800-300-9300. Call up anytime you want, you can call during or after the show, if the phone are lit up you can just leave your message, we’ll get back to you today.
Monique: Thank you.
Dr. Darrow: God bless you honey.
Monique: Oh thank you very much, I appreciate it, I’ll give you guys a call, I know you have to move onto a lot of people, but I had a quick question, if you don’t mind.
Dr. Darrow: No, please.
Monique: I heard about the bone spurs that even if it wasn’t the actual cartilage that could be repaired or partly repaired, even just the bone spur, I heard you say something, it cut off a little bit, but do you treat – does it help for bone spurs?
Dr. Darrow: The problem is not the bone spur. The bone spur is the result of the problem.
Monique: Yes, correct, correct.
Dr. Darrow: The bones hypertrophy or grow and become a spur, because of laxity in the joint or where tendons attach. Very often we see them on the heel with plantar fasciitis. People say I have a bone spur can you get rid of it. I don’t need to get rid of it, it’s not the problem.
Monique: Okay.
Dr. Darrow: The problem is the attachment to the bone.
Monique: But one of the worst pains is from the bone spur itself.
Dr. Darrow: No, the pain is not from the bone spur, did you hear what I said?
Monique: Yes, I heard that, okay.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, good, so don’t worry about bone spurs, it would have to be a pretty giant bone spur…
Monique: All right, I do also have the arthritis in the kneecap, in the patella, and that’s really painful, I didn’t even know that that could happen. Does part of the therapy include cells from the patella itself, the kneecap?
Dr. Darrow: When I inject into the knee from the bone marrow or platelets, from your blood, or from your bone marrow, I put the solution into the joint capsule by the use of an ultrasound guidance. So that needle goes to this teeny, teeny little spot that cannot be done without an ultrasound. Don’t ever get your joints injected without an ultrasound, you can’t put it in the right spot.
And when we put it in that spot, it goes into that area, it’s called the trochlear groove, where that patella slides along the femur. So yes, that handles it. Now if your patella is loose, as mine was after Dakota, my big Husky, ran into me at full speed, I had to inject my knee all the way around the patella. I injected it a good 20 or 30 times. And it tightened up overnight and healed up very quickly.
Monique: Well, when you injected it, you injected it with the bone marrow or the platelets?
Dr. Darrow: It depends what your problem is, we discuss that, and it depends if it’s something terrible we’re going to use your bone marrow. If it’s something not as bad, we’ll just use platelets from your blood.
Monique: Okay.
Dr. Darrow: It’s your decision, not mine.
Monique: Right, right. So it’s 800-300-9300.
Dr. Darrow: That’s it, give us a call, and we’ll talk to you about your insurance.
Monique: That’s wonderful.
Nita: Thank you so much Monique. Our number is 1-866-870-5752 and we’re going to Van in Rialto.
Dr. Darrow: Hey Van, I understand you’ve got some popping in your elbow, is that correct?
Van: Yes, sir.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, we call that crepitus most likely, which means a grinding or a popping thing, hang on with us till after the break and we will get to you Van.
Nita: Stay with us, this is Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow, I’m your host Nita Vallens. And please grab a pen or a pencil, and write down this important information about to come your way, and after this quick break, we will be right back, with more of your calls on 1-866-870-5752, 866-870-5752.
Narrator: Whether you have pain in your back or joints, surgery may not be the answer. Instead of the dangers involved in cutting out tissue, consider healing and rejuvenating the area with stem cells, platelet-rich plasma or Prolotherapy, the treatments that are available to professional athletes are now available for you. Watch the videos at or call the Darrow Wellness Institute at 800-300-9300, 800-300-9300, that’s 800-300-9300.
Nita: Welcome back to Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow. I’m your host Nita Vallens and we’re taking your calls at 1-866-870-5752, and right now we are talking to Van in Rialto.
Dr. Darrow: Hey Van, Dr. Marc Darrow are you still with us?
Van: Yes, I am.
Dr. Darrow: Good, so I want you to listen a little bit, then I’m going to ask you a couple questions. So there’s different kinds of popping in the elbow or other joints and if it’s sort of like a grinding sound, we call that crepitus, and if it just a clunk that’s something different where there may be some laxity between the bones, because the ligaments are loose.
What type is yours?
Van: Well, if I put other hand on that area, I feel it pop out, you know I can feel that area pop out if my fist is turned like into a fist, and I’m throwing a punch. So I’m not sure, but it’s like a pop.
Dr. Darrow: Are you sure it actually pops out or you just feel a pop?
Van: I feel the pop. I can feel that go in and out as if…
Dr. Darrow: Right, there’s probably a little issue – wait is there grinding also?
Van: Well, no, just a pop.
Dr. Darrow: They’re two separate things grinding or a pop, just a pop.
Van: A pop, it’s just a pop.
Dr. Darrow: Okay. You probably have some laxity in that joint and what we would do is we would take a little teeny needle, a 30 gauge needle with some of your platelets or stem cells, depending how bad it is, when I see it, and put it right in the joint there. It’s basically a painless injection with a tiny needle right into that teeny joint. Have you got an x-ray showing arthritis or anything?
Van: No, I haven’t, but I’m planning on getting one maybe in the next three weeks to a month.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, well if you come in, we can get that ordered up for you, and get it handled right away, we can inject you the same day you came in.
Van: Okay. One other thing, I do feel like the muscle around it is a little sore too, but it’s getting better, it’s not as – I don’t have the pain from the ligament or whatever it is surrounding that area as much as I did. But the popping is pretty much consistent now.
Dr. Darrow: Okay. You know I’m pretty sure we could tighten everything up, get rid of the little pain you have there. Are you an elbow abuser of some kind? Do you hammer? What do you do that causes it?
Van: Well, I’ve carried cameras for over 40 years.
Dr. Darrow: Well, that will do it.
Van: Yes, and having my hand in that 90 degree angle for so many years.
Dr. Darrow: Yes, yes, I got you. All right, well I think there’s good hope to heal that up, so I’m not worried about it Van. The phone number to the office, if you want to check on your insurance is 800-300-9300, 800-300-9300.
And there’s probably a video…
Van: I have it already written down.
Dr. Darrow: Okay. There’s a video on my website, are you listening? Are you with us?
Van: Yes, just a second I have to put my hand in position, okay, I’m ready.
Dr. Darrow: There is a video on my website of me injecting an elbow, and that’s, you can watch videos of many parts of the body, and see if this is a treatment that you think you’d like to do.
Van: So
Dr. Darrow: Beautiful Van, yes.
Van: Okay, I can barely hear you, but I have that number and the other number.
Nita: Okay.
Dr. Darrow: God bless you Van.
Van: Well, that was the…
Nita: Sorry, Van, I thought you were finished. Our number is 1-866-870-5752, thank you Van, hope you’re still listening, and we appreciate your call. And we have lines open for all of you right now, again that number is 1-866-870-5752, remember we are here Saturdays at one p.m., Sundays from one to two p.m. on 870 AM.
And again that website,, that’s And we’re going right over to Dale in Glendale.
Dr. Darrow: Dale, Dr. Marc Darrow, hang with me one second, I just wanted to announce something. We get so many callers at the end of the show, and we can’t talk to you then. I don’t know why people like to wait, so thank you Dale for calling in. And please everybody else call now, don’t wait until the end, or we’re not going to be able to talk to you.
Nita: Perfect.
Dr. Darrow: I’d like to talk to you.
Nita: Exactly. Thank you Dr. Darrow.
Dr. Darrow: All right, so Dale your back bothers you. Is it your low back or somewhere else?
Dale: It’s the low back, thank you for taking my call. I think the reason that people wait because they want to hear what you have to say, or they’ve just tuned in whatever, I don’t know. I’m not a radio psychologist.
Dr. Darrow: That’s okay.
Nita: I am, and you’re right.
Dale: Thank you. Thank you so much. I was quite strong, and I used to be able to lift a lot of weight, even though I didn’t weigh a lot, I would an engine off the floor, and put it on a table to work on it. And those were old engines, they were cast iron engines, they were much heavier than they are today.
But anyway, just recently I forgot that I’m not 20 or 30 years old anymore, and I lifted a box of heavy cast iron parts, I’m in my 70s, and I really – as soon as I lifted the box of cast iron auto parts for someone that was having some work done, I realized I was in trouble, but I carried the whole box across the alley and put it in the car, and as soon as I set it down I realized I was in trouble.
So now I’m walking with a cane, where I used to be pretty athletic, and I don’t know if there’s anything that can be done about the kind of damage that I caused.
Dr. Darrow: Have you been to a doctor yet Dale?
Dale: No. I have not.
Dr. Darrow: Okay. Most likely – I want you to listen for a bit here. Most likely I would be able to tell you in about five seconds, whether it’s your ligaments that you sprained in your low back, that’s the most common injury, and what you were certainly or could certainly lead to a sprain. Now, I know that you, as a jock when you were young, sprained your ankle before, you didn’t think must about it. Everybody sprains their ankle. And they go about their business, and it heals up.
But when it’s in the back we freak out, because there’s so many surgeons that cut backs. And unfortunately the research shows they shouldn’t be doing that anymore. And there is a book that I will send to you for calling in, or anyone who wants to go to the website, can download that book, and it will be – I keep saying it’s going to be printed up this week, and hopefully it really is going to be this next week, we’ll have hard copies that we’ll send to you.
But in the meantime, you can read that, and you can see that what I’ve been talking about, I’ve been doing this for 20 years on the radio for most of that time, telling people about this, and now I put a book together on the research. It’s finally already been researched after all these years that surgery is not a good thing for the body, when it’s in the musculoskeletal system. There’s way too many failures.
And that regenerative medicine is the new way of healing the body. And the nice thing about it, Dale is it’s conservative, we don’t have big problems after this. Theoretically we could, I make people sign a consent form, blah, blah, blah, but I get way too many people with failed surgeries, who are miserable.
Typically, the worst thing that happens with regenerative medicine or just injections to grow back the ligaments, tendons, the cartilage, things of that nature is it may not work for someone if they don’t do enough of it. And I just had – I just got an email just right before the show from one of my staff who said a husband of one of my patients called up and said they weren’t coming back, they had two stem cell treatments in a knee, and it didn’t work.
Well, it worked, they just didn’t do enough to get the result that she wanted yet. And that’s one of the problems with regenerative medicine it’s got to be applied long enough, enough treatments to get it to work. People have the idea that if they do surgery, that’s an end point, meaning they go in on a Friday morning, and they’re going to be done.
However, I have seen thousands of people who are basically crippled after failed surgeries, and they spend a ton of money. They come in, and they go I don’t want to do your treatment, because I have to pay for it. I’m going to get surgery, because insurance pays for it. And then they end up for the rest of their life, either not being able to do the job they used to do, or they’ve got to pay for people to come take care of them, or something else, buying braces, I don’t know, there’s a whole list of things.
So we have to be pretty wise to stay conservative. When it comes to medicine, we don’t want to do invasive things if we can help it. There’s way too many side effects. With joint replacements, I’ve seen people literally die on the table, just from the anesthesia.
Dale: Wow.
Dr. Darrow: I’ve seen endless infections, endless infections. I’ve seen legs that are longer than the other one, I’ve seen a shoulder replacement, where the prosthesis wouldn’t even fit in the other part, and the arm couldn’t move. I can tell you endless, endless, endless terrible things that I’ve seen. I am not a proponent of surgery. I’m just putting that out, blank, flat out.
Dale: I agree.
Dr. Darrow: If you have to do it for cancer to remove a tumor go for it. But in the musculoskeletal system, be careful of doing orthopedics. It’s being done way too much, when it shouldn’t be done.
Dale: I see. Well, you know I agree with what you’re saying, and I forgot that I’m not 20, 30, or 40, or 50 years old, and I lifted stuff that I shouldn’t have done, because I forgot…
Dr. Darrow: Well, Dale we know your story, the problem is you need to take care of it. And how are you going to take care of it is up to you. I’m going to bet you 80 percent chance, it’s the ligaments that you sprained in your back, and like a sprained ankle, it’s not a big deal.
But the difference is the ankles usually heal up on their own, and the backs do not. People have had back pain like that that I’ve known for over 50 years and we’ve healed them up. So there’s good hope, that probably just using PRP, or platelet-rich plasma, taking your blood, spinning it and injecting the platelets would suffice to get your back healed.
I can’t promise you anything, but that’s typically what it is.
Dale: Oh, and I understand that.
Dr. Darrow: All right, my friend God bless you. We’re going to go to Collette.
Nita: Thank you very much for your call, Dale.
Dr. Darrow: Nita, take over.
Nita: All right, well I just want to give the phone number while we’re going to Collette, it’s 1-866-870-5752, lines are open for you right now. And remember the website, that’s And here is Collette in Sun Valley.
Dr. Darrow: Hey Collette, Dr. Marc Darrow now we’re moving from the knees to the back. Is it your low back that bothers you.
Collette: Hi, yes, I’ve been listening to your program for a while, and I decided to make a phone call today.
Dr. Darrow: Good, I’m glad you did. Thank you.
Collette: I am a cancer patient – I am a survivor from UCLA Medical Center and then I had a lump – how do you say that?
Dr. Darrow: A lumpectomy.
Collette: A mastectomy.
Dr. Darrow: Lumpectomy? Breast lumpectomy.
Collette: No, I had both, lumpectomy and mastectomy.
Dr. Darrow: Oh mastectomy.
Collette: And then before that – yeah, I was very athletic when I was young, and I have left occipital nerve damage, and then I had a doctor from Georgetown University remove one of the nerves to save the other one.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, did you say occipital nerve damage?
Collette: Yes.
Dr. Darrow: So were you having headaches or neck pain or something like that?
Collette: Yes, I had – I didn’t have headache, I had neck pain, and then when I clicked my head to the side, and then it hurts, it was in the nerve.
Dr. Darrow: Well, what we generally do with that, Collette, do you want to listen? What we generally do with that is we take your blood, and we spin it, and we take the platelets from the blood, and we inject those into the neck. Most people who say they have nerve pain, do not have nerve pain. They have pain. And it generally is coming if it’s in the neck or the low back, it typically is coming from the ligaments. Obviously, not always, there’s a lot of things going on.
Collette: Yes, I also have – what’s happening to me, I live in a place in Sun Valley, I moved from Burbank, I was doing good, and then the place have black mold and asbestos. I think I was exposed to toxic, and I’m in severe pain from the sciatic nerve way up to my back, and now it’s the left side of my hips and low back.
Dr. Darrow: Okay, Collette, I want you to listen for a while, okay?
Collette: Um-hmm.
Dr. Darrow: Most of these things that people think are nerve pain, are not. That’s number one, it’s not typically a nerve. You started out with your low back, and then you jumped up to the neck. Those things we typically can heal using platelets from your blood.
Now, you’re complex because of the toxic mold, but I still think that these treatments of regenerative medicine could help you, okay?
Collette: Mucus to my mouth at night from the toxic – I couldn’t breathe very well, but I think it’s affecting my nerve, because I have numbness.
Dr. Darrow: I’d have to – Collette, you’re complex, I’d need to examine you. If you do want to come in, the phone number is 800-300-9300, this is not something I can do on the radio with you.
Collette: Yes, I have that already.
Nita: Okay, thank you so much Collette, we really appreciate your call.
Dr. Darrow: Great talking to you, I appreciate the call.
Nita: And I’ll give the office number again, 800-300-9300 for anybody else who is ready to make their appointment. And we’re looking for your call, we have some time left here. The number to call and speak to Dr. Darrow right now is 1-866-870-5752.
And while we’re waiting for the phones, let me tell you about the Vampire Facelift and Ideal Protein.
Dr. Darrow: Is it because of Halloween?
Nita: Well, not really. Not really, well because Michelle Darrow, your fabulous wife is in charge of the Vampire Facelift, and she offers it all year long. And so all you have to do is call the same number, we’re giving you to call the office, which is 800-300-9300, and…
Dr. Darrow: By the way, let me explain what it because it sounds terrible.
Nita: Okay.
Dr. Darrow: The Vampire Facelift has nothing to do with Vampires, and it has nothing to do with you looking like a Vampire. It’s a very simple process of drawing either your platelets from your blood, or stem cells from your bone marrow, injecting them into the face. It’s a nonsurgical facelift that’s done with injections.
Nita: Yes.
Dr. Darrow: And anything you want to say about that Nita.
Nita: Well, I want to say that it’s definitely something cutting edge – oh, pardon the pun.
Dr. Darrow: Beautiful.
Nita: But no cutting, just needles, very small needles, and I want to also tell you about Ideal Protein, let’s talk about that.
Dr. Darrow: Well, Ideal Protein is a diet program that we use in our office. People that come in with weight above their waist that they need to get rid of, because it’s causing arthritis or pain in their hips or legs, knees, feet, whatever, let’s face it guys, you’ve got to lose weight to help that. It does cause arthritis.
When you get a copy of my new book, Regenerate, Don’t Operate, you will read the research on this. It’s a free book. All you do is go to the website, you can download a copy of it, and I know people don’t like to lose weight. Food tastes good, if you’ve got lower extremity pain, please, please do that. I don’t care how you do it. You don’t have to use the diet that we have in the office. You can do it just by eating protein, veggies, fat and water, yes, get rid of those carbs.
Did I say fat? Yes.
Nita: Healthy fats.
Dr. Darrow: Fat, even unhealthy fats, that goes to weight loss.
Nita: Okay, give me that chocolate.
Dr. Darrow: Well, chocolate generally has carbs in it, sugar, but you can get chocolate, Nita, without carbs.
Nita: All right, we’ll have to talk about that.
Dr. Darrow: We have it in the office. We’ll give you some.
Nita: All right, I’m coming to your office. I’m coming to your office very soon, like in a couple of days, okay our number is 1-866-870-5752 and shall we head to Sarah in Azusa?
Dr. Darrow: Let’s shout out there as they say.
Sarah: Hi.
Dr. Darrow: How you doing, Sarah, Dr. Marc Darrow. Both your hip and your knee, which side of your body?
Sarah: The left side.
Dr. Darrow: The left side.
Sarah: And a couple of year ago I was diagnosed with arthritis in my left knee, and I was doing yoga, but then in the last two weeks or so, I felt a real severe pain in my hip joint, and I don’t know at this point, whether it’s progressing up to my hip, and what’s going on, but it’s been pretty severe.
Dr. Darrow: Well, has anyone talked to you about it yet, any doctor?
Sarah: I have gone to my doctor, they did an x-ray, I don’t know the results yet at this point. They were going to rule out arthritis in my hip.
Dr. Darrow: Okay. Well arthritis in your hip doesn’t necessarily cause pain, so be careful.
Sarah: Okay.
Dr. Darrow: Obviously, it can, and if it’s severe, it probably can, but I’ve had people with terrible arthritis, let’s say on their right hip, and then no arthritis on their left hip, and they had pain in their left hip and not in their right hip. So don’t judge this by an x-ray. It’s good information to have, but don’t let someone get a hold of that x-ray and say you need surgery because of this.
First of all, you don’t even know where your hip is, and many doctors operate on arthritic hips that are not causing any pain at all, and the pain is coming from a different area. So be careful, do not get seduced into a surgery thinking it’s a quick fix.
If you get a joint replacement, that joint is probably going to have to be replaced again, you sound like a fairly young woman.
Sarah: Yes, yes.
Dr. Darrow: And after the bone is worn away by the prosthesis, it’s very difficult to do a second replacement. I mean forgetting that, but I mean all of the possible side effects can be terrible too. So you want to use regenerative medicine whenever you can, it’s very simple. We draw your blood, if it’s just platelets we’re using, and we spin it and inject it. Or we take your bone marrow which is very simple, and spin it and inject it, okay.
So there’s good hope for healing your knee and your hip.
Sarah: I was just getting concerned because it came out of the blue, what’s been happening in my left hip came out of the blue, and sometimes the pain will radiate up to my hip – from my knee up to my hip, sometimes down to my ankle. And so I’m trying to figure out what’s going on, and I’m…
Dr. Darrow: Well, that’s not – unfortunately that’s not something within your power to do.
Sarah: Right.
Dr. Darrow: So there’s many possibilities that come to mind. You could have a problem with a nerve being pinched in your back, I doubt that’s what it is. I think probably you’re favoring your left knee and that’s irritating your hip, and I’m not real concerned about any of it, because I think you can probably heal.
Sarah: Oh okay.
Nita: That’s good news.
Dr. Darrow: You’ve just got to use the right treatment and be conservative, save the knife for the last possible thing.
Sarah: That’s true, yes, yes. What is your opinion on ibuprofen, because that’s pretty much what the doctor told me to start with.
Dr. Darrow: Never, how’s that for an opinion, never.
Sarah: Oh gosh.
Dr. Darrow: That’s just my opinion, I’m just one guy.
Sarah: Okay.
Dr. Darrow: No, we know that ibuprofen – all of the anti-inflammatories block the biosynthesis of collagen and cartilage, that’s exactly the opposite of what you want. You want to re-grow it. It’s terrible for your kidneys, it’s not good for your liver. I have spent many a night in the intensive care unit pumping people full of blood from too much anti-inflammatory medicine that ripped holes in their tummy.
Nita: Oh, I’m so sorry, Sarah, we have to wrap up, that’s our goodbye music playing in the background. Thank you so much for your call though, and thank you for listening and participating, and thank you Dr. Darrow, and thank Alex, thanks Suzette in production, grab a pen or a pencil for some important information coming your way. Go to the website and for everybody here at Living Pain Free with Dr. Marc Darrow, I’m Nita Vallens, and we’ll see you next time.